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Carpa Diem
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Mar 15, 2009, 3:22 PM

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THE 1ST ASIA GROWOUT EVENT
Breeder: Isawa Nishikigoi Centre
Bloodline: Matsunosuke Atarashi Sumi
Date: 17 May 2009


Venue

MAX KOI FARM
251 Neo Tiew Crescent
Singapore 718835

Tel : 65-6862 6363
Fax : 65-6862 6262
Email : max@maxkoifarm.com Project

Grow out of 220 kois of the Matsunosuke Sanke and Showa Atarashi Sumi variety from Isawa Nishikigoi Centre.
Each koi is priced at SGD 280 only.

Aims
  1. to study the Matsunosuke Atarashi Sumi Bloodline
  2. to test koi selection skills and develop an eye for excellent koi
  3. to foster friendship among the koi keeping community in Asia
  4. to help breeders promote and showcase their koi to hobbyists in Asia
Grow Out Format

Participants shall select their respective kois during the Inauguration Day (17 May 2009). The kois will be groomed for 6 months by MAX KOI FARM and thereafter compete in a competition to be judged by all participants at a specially organised event, tentatively fixed on 15 November 2009.

Judging Criteria

Judging will be by all participants who will be briefed by experienced judges on koi judging. Prizes will be awarded for the overall best 5 Showas and Sankes respectively, best growth for Showa and Sanke respectively, Grand Champion and Reserve Champion.

Selection Procedures
  • Pictures of the kois will be posted and numbered under the Showa and Sanke categories respectively under this thread
  • Sankes and Showas will be selected separately
  • All participants must submit their Selection Form(s) by 15 May 09 (Friday), 2300hrs, using the attached Form. The Selection Form will contain the priority of choice from 1st to the 110th choices. All Selection Form submission has to be sent to koi@genix.com.sg
  • Each Selection Form is use for the selecting of 1 koi only. If you are ordering 2 Sanke, 2 Selection Forms are needed.
  • On the Inauguration Day, the kois will be on display in their respective tanks from 9am to 12 noon.
  • Participants can refresh their selection by submitting a New Selection Form on the Inauguration Day before 12 Noon. A collection booth will be setup near the Koi Display tanks
  • At 2pm, the balloting of the Selection Forms will start.
  • The Selection Forms will randomly picked in open public in the presence of witnesses.
  • The 1st available koi listed in the Selection Form in the order of choice will be awarded to the Selection Form Owner.
  • Any paid participants without a Selection Form will be placed at the end of the queue for selection.
  • The balance of the kois will be assigned to the participants without Selection Forms in a numbering ballot process, in open public
  • The list of participants without a Selection Form will be published in the Forum by 16 May 09 (Sat), 3pm.
  • All clarification emails must contain contact no and should reach koi@genix.com.sg or posted on the Forum thread by 16 May 09 (Sat), 9pm.
  • At the end of the selection process, the list of kois and their respective owners will be posted on the Malaysia Koi Forum

Prizes
  • Grand Champion - D Sanke Nisai (60bu Best In Size - Jakarta ZNA Koi Show 2009)
  • Reserve Grand Champion - Yamato Kohaku Nisai/Sansai
  • Best Showa - Mohantaro Champion Kohaku
  • Best Sanke - Minolta UnderWater Digital Camera
  • Best 5 Showas - Sakai Fish Food
  • Best 5 Sankes - Sakai Fish Food


Registration to participate

Registration to participate in the competition is on a first come first served basis by signing up on the Malaysian Koi Forum 1st Asia Growout 2009 thread.

Registrants in excess of the respective limits of 115 showas and sankes each will be placed on waiting list and are entitled to participate in the event any of the first 115 registrants respectively withdraw their participation.

Please make payment on line through MAX KOI FARM (website: www.maxkoifarm.com) or via MAX KOI FARM Fax: 65-6862 6262
Email : max@maxkoifarm.com


Max Koi Farm has set up three methods of payment as follows:


(A) Payment by Paypal

Create a paypal account.

Log into your pay pal account, click on “Send Money” tab

Click on Send money online,

Fill up the boxes

Email to: max@maxkoifarm.com

Amount: SGD$ 280 per piece

Tick, send money for: Goods

Click continue

Fill in the Subject:

Payment for: 1st Asia Growout Event 2009

Message:
Please state the payment for which fish and number.

Etc:

2 Sankes, 2 Showas ($1120)

Please also give Max Koi Farm your full name, address, contact number and email address. (This is important so that they can keep track of the orders and also prevent any discrepancy.)

Example:

Thomas Ong
OntTT (forum nick)
12 Bayview Ave 2
Singapore 123456
Tel (+65) 91234567
Fax: (+65) 61234567
ongt@hotmail.com


(B) Payment by bank transfer. (TT transfer / iBanking )

Email Max Koi Farm your full particulars, order details and your choice of transfer.

Example:

iBanking
2 Sankes, 2 Showas ($1120)
Thomas Ong
OntTT (forum nick)
12 Bayview Ave 2
Singapore 123456
Tel (+65) 91234567
Fax: (+65) 61234567
ongt@hotmail.com


They will reply back to you with their bank details.
Please email/fax back to Max Koi Farm your transaction details (Acknowledgement) so as to keep track of payments to avoid any confusion.


(C) Pay through phone with credit card details

Call Max Koi Farm at (+65) 6862 6363
Provide them with your full particulars and order details

Example:

2 Sankes, 2 Showas ($1120)
Thomas Ong
OntTT (forum nick)
12 Bayview Ave 2
Singapore 123456
Tel (+65) 91234567
Fax: (+65) 61234567
ongt@hotmail.com

Provide them with
1) Credit card number
2) Expiry date
3) Digit pin number at the back (Security number)

After making payments, Max Koi Farm will forward you a copy of the invoice.


Inauguration Event – Program

Sunday 17 May 2009

8:00am ~ 9:00 am : Registration & Viewing of Kois

9:00 am ~ 10:00 am : Balloting

10:30am ~ 12:30 : Koi Selection

1:00 pm : Lunch


Sponsors
  • Free Pond Rental - Max Koi Farm Mr Max Ng
  • Free Koi Food - FD Food, Mr Kenny Baba
  • Web Cam – Mr David Soon
  • Water Cavitation Technology – ARS, Mr Eric Ng
  • All Trophies for various Winners - Deco Base, Mr Frankie Ong
  • Buffet lunch for Inauguration Day - Max Koi Farm, Mr Max Ng
  • Buffet lunch for Judging Day - Deco Base, Mr Frankie Ong
  • Design Posters and artwork- Koi Division Sdn Bhd, Mr Hafidsuddin Che Din (Deenblitzed)
  • Malaysia Koi Forum Host- Hileytech Sdn Bhd, Mr BG Khoo
  • Autofeeders – Mr Handy Yusran (Monscine) and Mr Riwin
  • Grand Champion Prize – Mr David Soon
  • Reserve Grand Champion Prize – Mr Kentaro Sakai
  • Best Showa Prize - Mr Mohan Gandhi
  • Best Sanke Prize - Minolta UnderWater Digital Camera, Mr GK Yang and Mr Wong Hee Heng
  • Best 5 Showas prizes - Mr Kentaro Sakai
  • Best 5 Sankes prizes – Mr Kentaro Sakai

DISCLAIMER

Participants will have to collect their koi from Max Koi Farm within 2 weeks of the close of the event, failing which charges will be impose for keeping of the koi. The gender of the koi is not warranted. Neither the Voluntary Committee nor Max Koi Farm shall take any responsibility in the event any participant's koi is injured, damaged, deformed or otherwise die under the care of Max Koi Farm during the event. The Voluntary Committee and/or Max Koi Farm will not provide any replacement, refund or compensation should such an event happen.

Price of SGD280 per fish quoted is based on collection of the koi ex-Max Koi Farm, and does not include shipping, tax, handling charges or keeping fee (where applicable) for shipment to their final destination for which the relevant participants will need to make their own separate arrangements with Max Koi Farm.




(This post was edited by Carpa Diem on Mar 15, 2009, 3:29 PM)


cheangv
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Mar 15, 2009, 3:36 PM

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I paid a visit to Apollo Aquarium today to get a sneak peak into the filtration system that will be installed to the two ponds. Whilst I get some clarification on the system, I thought I would leave you with a teaser picture of the 2 towers that will be part of the system. They are each about 20 feet high - massive!





WSC888
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Mar 15, 2009, 5:41 PM

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Hi,

May I know how much is the total delivery cost for shipping, tax, & handling charges for shipment to Kuala Lumpur by Max Koi Farm. Perhaps, Max koi farm can provide us with the details here. It is my main concerned here. Thank you.











Carpa Diem
Koi Kichi

Mar 15, 2009, 6:57 PM

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Hi,

It is not a big problem as in past GOs, Malaysian participants just ask Max to pack the kois at the end of the Judging Event and drive back to KL with the kois.

I do that often when buying kois in Spore.

Cheers,
Jeff


Carpa Diem
Koi Kichi

Mar 15, 2009, 7:13 PM

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Atarashi Sumi

Last October, I was Koi browsing with my Koi buddy Andrew over at Atari Koi Centre when we stumble upon a batch of leftover Matsunosuke kois.

We did not know then they were atarashi sumi showas, and as Andrew had picked the largest jumbo potential of the lot, a 23cm female tosai (see the first picture), I decided to skip the rest.

I live to regret that decision, as I was then looking at a much smaller maruten female tosai which would have introduced me much earlier to atarashi sumi.

As luck would have it, Andrew has on real life practical record some koi development pictures of atarashi sumi. As his was a leftover koi (an excellent one, at that -- credit goes to Andrew for his excellent eye for kois), I think there are some more excellent atarashi sumi showas out there. If you own one, please do share and post your koi development pictures so that all forumers can learn more about this bloodline.





The first picture shows the tosai at 28cm on 19 December 2008. The second picture shows the tosai at 38cm on 13 January 2009. Amazing growth, as she was fed on special paste food.

The next group of pictures below show the tosai at 48cm on 9 March 2009. Her hump is quite prominent at this early stage.

Now, we have all heard that Matsunosuke kois tend to grow long first before putting on girth. These pictures suggest that this particular atarashi sumi showa demonstrates an excellent bodyline at tosai stage, and you could easily apply the David Soon Jumbo Bodyline on this tosai. If the other owners of this early batch of Atari atarashi sumi kois could confirm a similar experience, then it would suggest that these kois are a departure from the usual long body matsunosuke kois.





The next batch of pictures below are close up shots of the atarashi sumi. The sumi is thick lacquer shiny black, and the maruzome kiwa sumi is clearly seen as scalloped around the scales.







I would like to thank Andrew for sharing these pictures with us. If there are any more such pictures available out there, please feel free to share.

Cheers,
Jeff


(This post was edited by Carpa Diem on Mar 15, 2009, 7:36 PM)


koinutx
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Mar 16, 2009, 3:54 AM

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Sign-up List with Payment info updated as at 15 March 2009





Folks,

I'm trying to figure out how to poost the inform in the correct size!Pirate

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cheangv
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Mar 16, 2009, 11:37 AM

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After getting more explanations from Eric on the technicalities of the filtration system that will be implemented to the 2 grow out ponds, here is a preview of what to expect. The parts are still being assembled but I managed to get a glimpse of the system by checking out what they have installed at their own ponds. Here is a pic of the systems they have installed at their own place


Eric explained that at the start, they will have the following parts installed for the filtration system for the grow out event. This will be in addition to the traditional filtration system that is already present in Max’s pond.
1. Sand filter (thats the blue round tub you see at the bottom) – this acts like a very fine mechanical filter with larger sized sand at the bottom and very fine sand at the top so that even the very fine particles are trapped. Japanese mat and corals alone cannot trap the fine particles that the human eye cannot also see and this gets circulated back into the pond in a traditional filter system which can then create problems for the water. The sand filter will require some maintenance in the back flushing to remove the waste trapped. Heres a close up shot of the sand filter. Eric mentioned that the one that will be installed at Max will be a much bigger unit measuring 48 inch in diameter

2. Cultivation chamber – this is the tall chamber that you see in the first picture. It contains a type of bio coated silica sand that is very fine. This sand acts like a floating suspended media which will be subject to abrasion from the water flow thereby releasing the nitrobacta bacteria. The bacteria will consume both ammonia and CO2 and at the same time produce O2. The tall chamber enhances the efficiency of the bacteria. Heres a clost up shot. You can see the sand at the bottom glass window.


3. Vortex oxidizer – thats the two tubes you see on the right and left of the cultivation chamber. This is where ozone is introduced in a controlled manner such that its enough to just control the bacteria population but not to completely eradicate it. The ozone will also oxidize the smaller organic compound which the chamber cannot trap and break it down and these will be subsequently trapped when it goes through the filtration system again. Heres a close up shot of what it looks like. This one is not operational yet

And a video of it in action. The video was captured in portrait mode so is tilted. Hope this gives you an idea of how it works
http://cheangv.smugmug.com/...491767185_M9ap4-A-LB

4. UV system – the UV will kill any excessive bacteria and prevent any algae bloom. The UV that they use is different from the ones available on the market as it has a 96.6% kill success due to the stainless steel tube which acts as a reflective chamber for the UV. For the normal ones, the UV only penetrates one side but with this reflective feature, it is able to make sure the UV shines on different angles.
5. DOB – lastly, the DOB will enrich the water with O2 before returning it into the pond. Eric mentioned that they will be monitoring the setup during the grow out and if they find that there is insufficient O2 for the cultivation chamber, they might add another DOB unit before it enters the chamber as well.
6. Nitrate/nitrite reductor – this will not be installed initially but if they find that the nitrate/nitrite level is high, then they will install this. Concept wise, it is similar to a denitrator. It uses the same type of silica sand media as the cultivation chamber but is more coarse. This will cultivate the anaerobic bacteria. It is a closed system which looks like another tall chamber, and it will trickle back water to the pond rather than an open system like the cultivation chamber. This is because the anaerobic bacteria needs time to consume the nitrate/nitrite.
7. Phospate reductor – this will be another optional depending on the water readings. As the description says, its meant to remove the phosphate which according to Eric is one of the silent killers. Phosphate will affect the calcium intake of the fish which then also affect its bone development. I believe this is a phospate reductor they have installed at their place. Sorry if I got it wrong, there were too many chambers around and they all look the same! Blush

Heres a video, its tilted again but you can see the silica sand moving
http://cheangv.smugmug.com/...491766393_73VEk-A-LB
According to Eric, if the full system was installed, then there is no need to change the water and the same water can be recycled. In fact, it would be good for the koi as they will not be stressed as they will be used to the aged water and don’t need to continually adapt to new water.

Lastly, I took a short video of their koi pond which has the system installed. You can see the cultivation chamber at the right and the DOB. The sand filter is hidden away.
http://cheangv.smugmug.com/...491807030_pfncg-A-LB

Eric will be sending over some technical write ups which I will share with everyone as well. We will also post the pics and video of the system running when it is installed at Max


(This post was edited by thiamhwa on Mar 17, 2009, 4:03 AM)


cookcpu
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Mar 16, 2009, 11:55 AM

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Thank you for the picture. Is this the whole system or part of a system. The tower are really tall and don't seem to need a lot of space to install.


cheangv
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Mar 16, 2009, 12:11 PM

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Hi William

I've now finished the complete post so you read about the whole system. I did ask Eric about installations at home and he says that it only makes economic sense for larger ponds which are more than 10 tons. In terms of costings, it will depend on your system as they will evaluate the requirements and water parameters before confirming what needs to be installed.


normanchua
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Mar 16, 2009, 4:22 PM

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Jeff, noticed that you mentioned under "Selection Procedures" that balloting starts at 2 pm but the program sheet shows 9 am. Can you please clarify. Thanks.


cheangv
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Mar 16, 2009, 5:47 PM

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Oops, just realised I posted the wrong video link for the silica sand media in action and don't seem to be able to edit my previous post now. Heres the correct link
http://cheangv.smugmug.com/...491766393_73VEk-A-LB

Admin, if you can, please help me to correct the link. Thks


DavidSoon
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Mar 16, 2009, 6:19 PM

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Brother Vincent SmileSmile

Great Job !!SmileSmile

The videos and the pictures of the Cavitation System are all very well taken . 1st class video and pictures illustration .
You had indeed done a great job with this presentation ...SlySly Thank you very much Brother .
I Salute you for your great effort .SlySly

Cheers
David


cookcpu
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Mar 17, 2009, 7:18 AM

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Hi William

I've now finished the complete post so you read about the whole system. I did ask Eric about installations at home and he says that it only makes economic sense for larger ponds which are more than 10 tons. In terms of costings, it will depend on your system as they will evaluate the requirements and water parameters before confirming what needs to be installed.


Hi Vincent, thank you for asking about installation at home for small pond. I guess it will not be cost effective for a small pond to have such a system to be setup.


koinutx
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Mar 17, 2009, 5:48 PM

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Finally, I hope this is readable now..Sly
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(This post was edited by koinutx on Mar 17, 2009, 5:55 PM)


monscine
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Mar 18, 2009, 11:16 AM

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Hi Jeff,

Regarding to the payment issue, when the last payment due time to the enlisted participants, so the participants on the waiting list could make payment and replace the participants on the first list?

Cheers,


WSC888
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Mar 18, 2009, 5:07 PM

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Hi,

It is not a big problem as in past GOs, Malaysian participants just ask Max to pack the kois at the end of the Judging Event and drive back to KL with the kois.

I do that often when buying kois in Spore.

Cheers,
Jeff
Thanks for the reply buddy. What if we can't make it for the judging day. How are we going to send back the fish? Thanks


monscine
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Mar 19, 2009, 5:02 AM

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Hi brudder Jeff and all brudders sistas,

I've asked our participants to start make payment. Some will do payment themself, and some will send the money through me and I'll send them to Max in two period.

Cheers,


mybirdshit
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Mar 19, 2009, 4:51 PM

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I e-mailed Max Koi Farm my details as I want to pay by bank transfer but still no reply. Help?

Also, I don't see a Selection Form available for download? Help?


WSC888
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Mar 19, 2009, 5:39 PM

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Hi brudder Jeff and all brudders sistas,

I've asked our participants to start make payment. Some will do payment themself, and some will send the money through me and I'll send them to Max in two period.

Cheers,

Sorry, brudder, I dun mean how to make payment. It is very clearly mentioned there are 3 mode of payment. I meant how to transport it back if I am not there on the judging day. Can Max Koi Farm send it to Malaysia for me, how much is the charges and where to pick up when the koi is delivered. Thank you.


HWONG
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Mar 20, 2009, 10:31 AM

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To all Malaysian Participants especially those in and around Selangor,

I have spoken to Brudder Deen about handling the importation of Kois at the end of the GO period. He will be advising us shortly.

RGds


koidivision
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Mar 20, 2009, 3:16 PM

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To All Malaysian Participants,

I have asked both my partners regarding bringing the GO kois back to Malaysia from Singapore. I'm pleased to say that both of them agreed to the idea. So this means KDF has volunteered to help bring the 1st Asia Grow Event kois from Max's place in Singapore to our place in Tropicana, Petaling Jaya, Malaysia. Then the participants will be informed when their kois arrive.

However, KDF will not be able to pay the transportation costs involved in bringing these fishes back ourselves. So here I would like to ask whether the Malaysian participants would agree on sharing these costs together? Bear in mind that these kois will be bigger at the end of the grow out period. As a result from these bigger kois is the increase of transportation charges as the bigger the kois the less of them can be put into a box.

So I would like to ask the participants about what they think about this idea.



Regards,

Deen

Koi Division S/B (KDF)


DavidSoon
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Mar 20, 2009, 4:08 PM

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Hi all brudders and Sizters SmileSmileSmile

Again , like we always say , that in this community and hobby of Koi keeping , we always find nice people around us .... Sly
and Brother Deen , you're one of the beautiful people here SlySly . Many Thanks Deen .

Cheers
David


danlee
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Mar 20, 2009, 4:49 PM

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Hi Deen,

Thank you for volunteering to bring the koi from Max to PJ. I have no problem sharing the transportation cost.

Cheers,

Daniel Lee


Mohan
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Mar 20, 2009, 5:42 PM

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Hi Deen,

Thanks for your help.Pls help to bring poh chai & my koi-we will pay the necessary charges.
Thank you once again.
Hkk
Mohan. Cool
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WSC888
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Mar 20, 2009, 6:26 PM

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There solve all my hectic. Thanks Deen for your help and I have no problem sharing the transport cost. A big salute to you...Sly

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