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koihaku
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May 16, 2002, 6:55 PM

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If u have a turbo cleaner, could u tell me if it is any good? i could use one for my current pond, just to make the water totally crystal clear.

I dont really believe its as good as it says it is. To me it just dosent look capable of doing the job.

Comments please

JonWink


SMW1
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May 16, 2002, 10:44 PM

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Hi,

I have a turbo cleaner running on my 3000 gal pond.

I have the G65 8,000 gal one (the big one). My water was quite clear when I got it, I could see the bottom of the pond 5' below the surface, but at the bottom I could just see the outline of the bright colour koi. Once I fitted the turbo cleaner I saw a change in the water literally over night. The water looked softer if you know what I mean, there was no foam or bubbles on the surface and I could even see the black koi on the bottom of the pond. After about a week the water was crystal and I mean crystal clear, I could read the writing on my Auqamaster pump and even see each little fold in my liner.

I would reccomend a turbo cleaner to anyone with a koi pond.

And before you ask, No, I do not have shares in Feebie (company that make turbo cleaners) SlySly.

I believe Dr Tan also has a G65

Stuart



lptong
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May 17, 2002, 5:34 AM

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good day to everyone. i read with great interest on the G65 turbo cleaner as describe by Stuart. i like to have one for my +2000gal pond. can any one tell me where i can get one in Malaysia or specifically in Penang? although my pond is clean and clear, i thought i would like it better. how much does it cost here in Malaysia? would appreciate if anyone can help.
thank you and cheers


koihaku
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May 17, 2002, 8:14 AM

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Ok, thank u stuart, i am very relieved now, Ill buy the turbo cleaner as quickly as i can get my hands on one.

Thanks

JonTongue


SMW1
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May 17, 2002, 9:41 AM

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Hi,

I'm not sure about the price in Malaysia.



Here in UK, the big one, G65 8,000 gal is 300 the small G20 2,000 gal is 200.

However you may as well go for the G65 for the extra money.

I would estimate at the current exchange rate (1 = 5.53RM) you are looking at about 1659RM for the G65 and 1106RM for the G20.

Stuart


lptong
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May 17, 2002, 9:51 AM

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Thanks Stuart, guess i had to look around if i can get it in Malaysia. anyone else in this forum knows where i can get one here? would appreciate and give me the contact number too.
cheers


Arcen
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May 17, 2002, 2:22 PM

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Smile Hi Stuart, How are you? Long time no speak! I've been a bit busy in the garden (WATCHING MY KOI BASICALLYSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile) With regards to the turbo cleaners,,,,,,,, I have read much about these on another Koi BB site.Apparently the smaller one is actually more than capable of stripping the DOC from much bigger ponds than what the makers say it will do!!!! Crazy One member on that particular BB actually brought the big one and the smaller version.She swears by the smaller version...

At the end of the day,the smaller one will strip DOC no matter what...So for a saving of approx 100 you're much better off with the smaller version!! Unless of course you have many thousands of gallons of water.Please don't think I'm trying too say you are wrong,just letting you and others know what I read about!! SmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

Be good.Catch you later. Best wishes. COLINCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCool


patrick123
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May 17, 2002, 2:41 PM

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Stuart,

If I understand correctly, the Turbo Cleaner is basically a protein skimmer to remove the protein and urine content in the water. As a result of this action, the water is a lot cleaner and clearer.

The question is, what is the negative effect if cannot afford a protein skimmer? Other than the water is not so crystal clear, will it affect the health of the fish assuming all the mechanical, biological and TT are working perfectly?

Thanks,
Patrick


SMW1
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May 17, 2002, 4:44 PM

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Hi Colin / Patrick,

The Protien skimmer is just an add on to your existing filter and shoul dnot replace the biological filter you already have.

I would say its just the clarity of the water that is eefected and a slight descrease in ewater levels (param's not water in general).

Stuart


patrick123
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May 20, 2002, 12:56 PM

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Stuart,

Since I'm planning to build a pond, is there anyway to embed the Turbo Cleaner into the filter chamber instead of on top of the pond? If yes, how to do it and where should I put? Does it require filtered water from the last chamber?

What is the size of it?

Thanks,
Patrick


SMW1
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May 20, 2002, 1:28 PM

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Hi Patrick,

To embed the turbo cleaner into the filter chamber would be very difficult.

It is designed to be positioned above the water surface. The inlet is designed to be pumped to, and the outlet is at the bottom and design to flow from (if you know what I mean).

I can not see anyway of incoprperating this into the chambers. It can be though of like trickle tower. Water pumped to it and natural flow out of it.

You also need a waste outlet from this cleaner. The burst bubble cells creates a drip effect that needs to be discharged.



Turbo Cleaner G65: Dia 39cm, Height=47cm
Maximum pond volume Approx' 8000 gallons 40,000L
4m flexible supply hose included
Supply hose: Dia 32mm
Discharge Hose: Dia 50mm


Hope this helps

Stuart


patrick123
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May 20, 2002, 1:34 PM

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Stuart,

Wow...that was very quick response. ShockedShocked

Does it come with a pump? Do you draw water from the last chamber? Can it be surface skimming?

Thanks,
Patrick


SMW1
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May 20, 2002, 5:04 PM

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Hi Patrick,

Ideally it would be draw from the last chamber, however it can if required be draw straight from the pond itself.

When you say, can it be surface skimmer, what exactly do you mean by this ?.

Stuart


patrick123
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May 21, 2002, 6:19 AM

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Stuart,

This might be a stupid question. During my marine fish keeping days, I've learned that protein is usually floating on/near the surface of the water. By skimming the surface of the water to a protein extractor (protein skimmer), you can remove the protein in the water most effectively. Is this the case for freshwater?

Thanks,
Patrick


SMW1
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May 21, 2002, 8:57 AM

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Hi,

Due to the nature of Koi and the ponds we put them in, the water has allot more movement. So the fact that the protien is at the top of the water is not always true. However in a natural dead water situation this would be the case.

I personally pump water form the bttom of the pond to the Turbo cleaner, however I woul dimagine it woul dbe more effective bu pumping water from a surface skimmer inlet. The desision rests with you, however both methods are very efffective.

Can I also stress that the G20 and G65 Turbo cleaners shoul dnot be confused with any other bio protien skimmers. Although the principle is the same, the design is slighlty different as no media is required within the cleaner.

Stuart


dttk
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May 21, 2002, 10:28 AM

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Hi PT, yes I have a febi-TurboCleaner G 65 running in my pond, as mentioned by Stuart. My water is crystal clear but I do not know if that is attributed to the febi alone or to the filter media in the chambers...Crazy. The local dealer is LINTREX (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD, Lot 19345 & 6, Tmn. Perindustrian Selayang, Batu 8 1/2, Jalan Ipoh, 68100 Batu Caves, Selangor. Tel: 03-618 8888. Pls check for new 8-digit number. Smile
Always friendly :)


lptong
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May 21, 2002, 5:21 PM

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Hi TK, thanks for the info, i will check up with them. will keep you posted.


SMW1
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May 22, 2002, 12:26 AM

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Hi,

Just out of interest have you ever tried turning this off, just to see if it makes any difference over a period of say 2 weeks. I may try this to see how much it is actually doing.

I'll do a test once one of my bio filters wakes up again and starts clearing the water a little more. (It took a bit of a knock while cleaning)

Stuart


(This post was edited by SMW1 on May 22, 2002, 12:27 AM)


dttk
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May 22, 2002, 6:16 AM

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Nope Stuart, haven't tried that yet....Smile.
Always friendly :)


SMW1
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May 22, 2002, 9:08 AM

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OK, since my new pond will be ready in a few months, I wil give it a shot in the next two weeks and post results here. May even take some pictures of with and without, if the difference is clearly defined in photography.

Stuart


taho
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May 22, 2002, 5:19 PM

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Greeting guys,

Can anyone tell me how much it cost in malaysia? I just chk out the price in Singapore, it cost S$750 n S$1400 respectively. Sometime I do travel to malaysia, so if it is cheaper i can save a few hundred bucks and get myself another kohaku.


SMW1
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May 22, 2002, 6:59 PM

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Hi PT, yes I have a febi-TurboCleaner G 65 running in my pond, as mentioned by Stuart. My water is crystal clear but I do not know if that is attributed to the febi alone or to the filter media in the chambers...Crazy. The local dealer is LINTREX (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD, Lot 19345 & 6, Tmn. Perindustrian Selayang, Batu 8 1/2, Jalan Ipoh, 68100 Batu Caves, Selangor. Tel: 03-618 8888. Pls check for new 8-digit number. Smile



koihaku
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May 22, 2002, 7:14 PM

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Good idea about the test smwCool

Please do it, as im sure many of us want to know how much it really doesSly

JonTongue


jsoon
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Jul 3, 2002, 7:31 PM

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Can Turbo cleaner be incoporate together with FG tank ? I can put it on top of the last chamber.


jitwee
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Jul 5, 2002, 8:16 PM

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Hi taho,can you please tell me where can i get the Tubro Cleaner in Singaopre.Thanks.

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