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fishhelp
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Dec 7, 2004, 4:11 AM

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I recently inherited a koi pond when I bought my house. A beautiful pond approx. 12ftx5ftx3ft. containing 4 koi about 12inches and 15 smaller koi. Not knowing anything about koi i did well over the summer and the fish did well. Once it came time to prepare pond for winter i talked to local pond store who advised me to remove filter and get out as much debris as I could. I followed his directions leaving a small submersible pump in place for aeration. Within a few weeks pond water became black and several smaller fish floated to the top. What now? My concern is that the fish are dead. In an effort to remove more leaves that may have settled on the bottom I have netted the larger koi but they appear to be lifeless. Are they dead or frozen? Current temps here range 30's-low 50's.


koiguyoz
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Dec 7, 2004, 3:55 PM

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Removing the filter was an obvious contributor to the death of the fish and the water turning black.

Regardless of temperature (unless we're talking about a completely frozen pond), the removal of the filter must have meant that the water properties were no longer suitable to sustain the fish's life.

The filter performs a few functions, including the capture of debris and the chemical processing of the water through biological means, turning the evil ammonia and nitrite into the less toxic nitrate. The pump you were left with only accomplished oxygenation.

Return the filter as soon as possible, but now since you have removed it, the biological bugs in inside are likely dead, and will be just as toxic. Completely clean the old filter, and restart it in the pond.

The lifeless koi
Several theories:

*They are hibernating / saving energy for the winter.
*They are feeling ill.

The water test kit
I seriously recommend getting your hands on the nitrite/nitrate test kit, ammonia test kit, and PH test kit. Most aquarium stores should have it. The package should come along with instructions and recommendations on what to do if the readings are bad (I suspect they are). Come back and post the readings for suggestions on what next to do.

PH up
Obtain sodium bicarbonate in the cake section of the supermarket to raise the PH level, if it dips into the acid side of the scale.

Debris
The buildup of debris should really be netted out with a net, or removed through the use of a solids handling submersible pump like the Hozelock Titan.





mike c
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Dec 7, 2004, 5:34 PM

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i think you released a lot of bad bacteria by disturbing the debris on the bottom.

the absence of the filter added to the problem



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eastside
Koi Lover

Dec 8, 2004, 6:18 AM

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They are dead and alittle bit frozen. You got to be careful when you clean the whole bottom floor and slowly do it or the debris we realese qwick and your fish will catch ammonia poisining


goldy
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Dec 8, 2004, 7:36 AM

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even at zero tempritures koi are still very active if needbe.

 
 
 



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