Home  


  Main Index MAIN
INDEX
Search Posts SEARCH
POSTS
Who's Online WHO'S
ONLINE
Log in LOG
IN

Home: KOI Talk: DIY Corner:
Submersible biomedia?

 






 


perplex
Koi Lover

Aug 15, 2005, 4:16 AM

Post #1 of 6 (1359 views)
Shortcut
Submersible biomedia? Can't Post

Hello, has anyone done any DIY job with putting biomedia actually into the pond including the filter. For extra biomedia for the bacteria to colonize and eat the ammonia? I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have lava rocks inside some kind of container that allows water in and out freely but trap the lavarocks inside. Then the container into the pond deep end. I thought this would be a better idea than filter biomedia because this way the biomedia is in contact with the water in a better way i think.

Please tell me what you think Smile

Also one other thing, do plants consume nitrites (or nitrate?) ? or ammonia too? Crazy

The ultimate reason i'm asking is not only to have higher water quality but deter algae growth and take load off the UV light. thinking about adding more plants also


koiguyoz
Member


Aug 15, 2005, 9:07 PM

Post #2 of 6 (1311 views)
Shortcut
Re: [perplex] Submersible biomedia? [In reply to] Can't Post

I did this when I first started.

The biggest problem you'll find is trying to clean all the poop and stuff that gets sucked into that filter box. I can tell you its a wet, stinky and cold affair to be getting into. All in all what you have described is usually called "submersible biofilters".

From what I've been done and read the bacteria responsible for converting ammonia requires quite an amount of oxygen. Deep in the water, these bugs won't be able to have such an abudant source.

In a similar vain, the system you describe may also resemble an undergravel filter (UGF) used on some aquarium systems. To use this on a pond would require a higher amount of maintanence than an external prefilter/biofilter combination.


perplex
Koi Lover

Aug 15, 2005, 11:33 PM

Post #3 of 6 (1304 views)
Shortcut
Re: [koiguyoz] Submersible biomedia? [In reply to] Can't Post

ok, would it need 24/7 air pumped onto the biomedia? because i have an airstone in the middle of the pond and was wondering if the contained biomedia could be submerged ontop of the airstone maybe?


larz1
Koi Kichi


Aug 16, 2005, 1:34 AM

Post #4 of 6 (1296 views)
Shortcut
Re: [perplex] Submersible biomedia? [In reply to] Can't Post

The airstone would definitely help, but it still doesn't solve the problem with cleaning up the sludge, which would be a major league pain in the buttUnsure. Bio media won't clean itself and needs a pre-filter which must be cleaned regularly in order to function properly. I'd try looking for a completely different solution if I was in your shoes 'cause this approach has some very messy and labor intensive drawbacks, just like koiguyoz said.


perplex
Koi Lover

Aug 16, 2005, 3:06 AM

Post #5 of 6 (1294 views)
Shortcut
Re: [larz1] Submersible biomedia? [In reply to] Can't Post

ok Frown i just thought that the water contact (and air) would be sufficient. so debris would cover the biomedia and stop the bacteria functioning right? Frown


larz1
Koi Kichi


Aug 16, 2005, 3:19 AM

Post #6 of 6 (1287 views)
Shortcut
Re: [perplex] Submersible biomedia? [In reply to] Can't Post

Yup. The fish poo solids would muck up the whole thingPirate. I don't know what type of setup you have, but a multi chamber (at least 3) filter system is about the minimum you can get by with.
Stage 1 settlement chamber (for heavy solids to fall out to drain) Vortex type is a good choice.
Stage 2 Matt or Brush type solids filter (to trap suspended fine particles) Upflow type allows backflushing to a drain without handling mucky filters too often.
Stage 3 Biomedia (Trickle tower would be best choice) Removes contaminates by aerobic bacterial action.
There are several good DIY examples posted and one of them happens to be on Koiguyoz website!Wink

 
 
 



Search for (options) Back to Koi.com.my Main Page

  Disclaimer  Privacy Statement     
Copyright 2001~ 2002 Hileytech Sdn Bhd , All Rights Reserved.  
No part of the forum postings can be copied without prior permission from Hileytech Sdn Bhd and the Author of the Posting.
For comments and Suggestion, Please contact the Webmaster at koi@hileytech.com