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Jaylene
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Nov 26, 2005, 4:55 PM

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Would it be possible to make a good settlement chamber by making a separate small pond with rubber liner, cone shaped bottom, and bottom drain?

Would it need to have a cover?

I was going to use a plastic 45 gal. drum but I have a larger pond and I don't think the water will have time to settle in a container this small. I can't find anything else affordable.

Jaylene

larz1
Koi Kichi

Nov 26, 2005, 10:26 PM

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What you propose will work if large enough, but have you looked at Koi38's "Simple Drum Filter" in this forum. Very effective, simple to make from a drum (or two) and easy to maintain.

Jaylene
Koi Lover

Dec 7, 2005, 5:01 AM

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Hello,
I have just realized that if I do a settlement chamber using rubber liner, I'll need to cement in the bottom drain for this the same as my pond Tongue

. Too much work, too much time. I am hoping to have the fish in the pond by mid April Unsure

.
On to the barrels !!! I did look at the plan for the barrel filter. I also looked at the pond they were used on and the water looks great. But my pond is so very overstocked, I think it would be better for me to arrange it a little different.
I was thinking of a barrel (or two) for each stage of filtration instead of combining all into one. Apparently I'll need to get a degree in plumbing so I can figure out how to join them all together Tongue

. But first of all, biology 101.
How about a 45 gal. plastic drum with a cone bottom and brushes for the settlement chamber? What would be the best way to position the brushes?

Jaylene

(This post was edited by Jaylene on Dec 7, 2005, 5:13 AM)

larz1
Koi Kichi

Dec 7, 2005, 1:13 PM

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Brushes or mats either one would work great. Just rig a way to fasten the tops of them together and suspend them from the top of the drum. That way they are easy to clean with an occasional "shake up" and the rest of the time you can just ignore them and let'em do all the work for you.

Koi38
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Dec 7, 2005, 1:42 PM

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Hi Jaylene,

I would use 3 drums for settlement, prefilter and biofilter with a drain on each drum for maintenace Smile

You might have seen this pic somewhere but here it is just incase you didn't Tongue

This how I'll connect them, IMHO Wink

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
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Dec 7, 2005, 3:18 PM

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Hello,

Right now my main pump is a 3500 gph submersible. It is fairly new so I will continue to use it for now. When it needs to be replaced I would like to get an external pump. To accommodate the bottom drains, I will need to move the pump out of the pond. Would it work best to put it before the settlement chamber or after?

Jaylene

Koi38
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Dec 7, 2005, 6:06 PM

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Hi Jaylene,

Normally they install the pump (submersible or external pump) after the filtration in a gravity feed system. I'm using a submersible pump myself and its in my last chamber pushing the water back to pond Smile

rgds,
Jon

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larz1
Koi Kichi

Dec 7, 2005, 9:22 PM

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Glad you finally showed up (took you long enough Wink

). Your setup is about as clean and simple as a happy doityourselfer could ask for Cool

Koi38
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Dec 8, 2005, 8:05 AM

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Hi Larry,

Glad you finally showed up (took you long enough).
Its not easy to think ya know soecially if your're on drugs Shocked

Don't tell me you miss me too Laugh

A lot of things are happening atm and been busy lately Pirate

Talk to you L8er m8 Wink

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
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Dec 8, 2005, 8:37 AM

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Hello Jon,

So far I've learned BD, TT, DOC and LOL. I guess now it's time for IMHO. Please exlain.

Jaylene

larz1
Koi Kichi

Dec 8, 2005, 10:25 AM

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I hope things get better soon. I'll be thinking of you M8 Smile

larz1
Koi Kichi

Dec 8, 2005, 10:29 AM

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I n
M y
H umble
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Compu-shorthand can get Compulicated Crazy

R olling
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L aughing
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Koi38
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Dec 8, 2005, 1:04 PM

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LOL - laugh out load

GTG - got to go

AFK - away from keyboard

ATM - at the moment

BRB - be right back

and so ooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Tongue

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
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Dec 13, 2005, 12:35 AM

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If each BD has settlement chamber, do I make a row of filters for each settlement chamber?

Jaylene

Koi38
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Dec 13, 2005, 8:34 AM

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Hi Jaylene,

If you're having more than one BD I suggest to have a settlement for each BD. No you don't need separate filters for each BD unless you have a space issue Smile

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
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Dec 13, 2005, 11:54 AM

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Hello Jon,

Do I take all (2-3) settlement chambers and join them to a single mechanical filter?

Jaylene

Koi38
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Dec 14, 2005, 8:52 AM

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Hello Jon,

Do I take all (2-3) settlement chambers and join them to a single mechanical filter?

Jaylene

Hi Jaylene,

If you want to you can, but if you can afford to separate them its even better. So when you do your maintenace you don't have to shut the entire filter. Smile

"Remember the bigger the filter the better"

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
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Dec 14, 2005, 9:54 AM

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Hi Jon,

How will I hook up my pump to multiple filter drums? Will I need to buy more pumps?

confused, as always
Jaylene

Koi38
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Dec 14, 2005, 10:35 AM

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Hi Jaylene,

If you are building/making 2 sets or more filters the answer is yes. But if you are building/making 2 or more settlements and one set of filter then the answer is no Smile

rgds,
Jon

PS: Don't worry, I was born confused Laugh

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Jaylene
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Dec 14, 2005, 12:23 PM

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Hi Jon,

I don't want to buy more pumps right now so I'll be using one set of filters. I will need minimum two or three bottom drains. If I had all (2-3) settlement chambers going into a single 45 gal drum for mechanical filtration , what kind of pipes would I need coming out of the drum? Unimpressed

Jaylene

Koi38
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Dec 15, 2005, 3:53 PM

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Jaylene,

Use 4" pipe for connecting each drums to maximise water flow. Smaller pipes will give you trouble Shocked

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
Koi Lover

Dec 16, 2005, 12:48 PM

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Hello Jon,

If three 4" pipes are entering one drum, will just one 4" pipe leaving the drum be enough?

Jaylene

(This post was edited by Jaylene on Dec 16, 2005, 12:54 PM)

Koi38
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Dec 16, 2005, 1:14 PM

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Hi Jaylene,

IMHO, it should be fine. It will give you much better flow than small pipes Smile

rgds,
Jon

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Jaylene
Koi Lover

Jan 1, 2006, 3:30 AM

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Hello Jon,

If I position the pipes exiting each drum facing upwards, will I still be able to use floating plants or will they be sucked up?

Jaylene

Koi38
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Jan 1, 2006, 7:35 AM

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Hi Jaylene,

Eventually they will get sucked in not unless you place a stainless steel mesh over the transfer pipe Smile

Happy New Year Wink

rgds,
Jon

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