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mike c
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Apr 26, 2005, 7:46 PM

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(This post was edited by aragorn on Apr 26, 2005, 7:48 PM)

ngoodyhere
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Apr 27, 2005, 8:19 AM

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Hi there. I think I would be pretty worried if I was a fish in one of those. They look like a very large deep fat frying basket! Crazy

Only kidding.
Since looking into koi properly, and coming to this site, I am amazed at how proffessional everything is. It is nice to learn new things everyday and see what products are available. (They certainly look the buisness)
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mike c
Koi Kichi

Apr 27, 2005, 8:25 AM

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tempura koi!

seriously though, the kois wont come anywhere near this ...
i will put some plastic bio media here (ultra bio media in this case) and put in lots of airstones to make a "moving bed"
which they say performs better than static media like our jap mats.

for more info, check out "kaldnes moving bed" at evolutionaqua.com

this is my DIY version of it.

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kelabukoi
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May 18, 2005, 3:18 PM

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Mike, do we really need to have the basket? Can't we simply let the media loose in a concrete chamber and let the airstones move them around? I believe we need the basket only if we are taking out the media on a frequent basis.
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mike c
Koi Kichi

May 18, 2005, 4:46 PM

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you dont need the basket if you can just make sure the input, output, and the drain of this chamber will NOT let the media back out.

i also chose to put it in the basket to avoid having koi poop or other bigger stuff mixing with the media. the stainless screen holes are 1000 microns in size.

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GCSpyder
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May 18, 2005, 4:54 PM

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Hi Mike,

The basket does look impressive and the fabrication looks really good. I am only concerned regarding the 1000microns that you chose. Has the basket been put into operation. I would think that the holes will clog up in no time, if not by the debris, then the microfilm will get it in time. Anything to share on this?

Cheers..

mike c
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May 18, 2005, 8:23 PM

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it does get lots of crud ... i have put it in for a week or two (without airstone yet)
and it already needed cleaning, but maybe its because i put it too close to the vortex settlement. i have another 1000 micron screen before this and i cant believe that a lot of crap still get through.

anyway, i plan on using another pump to spray the crud of from the inside of the container. i couldnt find a screen that had bigger holes than a 1000 micron, maybe next time. this will have to do ... its a good thing i have now wised up and started to use laborers to have these stuff cleaned. i used to do all the pond work, but not anymore!

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GCSpyder
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May 19, 2005, 9:20 AM

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Hi Mike,

I believe some of the hobbyist who were using the 250micron answer complained of it clogging due to the biofilm. If you search around, I am sure you can find those bigger than 1000micron. I have alot of those screens of various sizes in my house, bought to diy but aborted due to change of plans! Sly

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mike c
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May 19, 2005, 10:24 AM

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im actually looking for something in the range of 5 mm holes ... but couldnt find any that will deliver :) im a homebody and do not like to go out.

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Koi38
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May 19, 2005, 11:25 AM

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im actually looking for something in the range of 5 mm holes ... but couldnt find any that will deliver :) im a homebody and do not like to go out.

Huh......... You live in QC where the actions are and you don't like to go out Shocked

. How about you watch your koi during the day Smile

and look for the mesh at night time Laugh

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neutokoi
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May 19, 2005, 5:26 PM

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I have seen one that is very nice, but it is quite expensive to buy a new one. It is actually the stainless tub of "electrolux" washing machine Wink

, I have one machine that is not functioning and too expensive to repair, thinking of using it for tickle tower. :-)

mike c
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May 19, 2005, 5:38 PM

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koi38, no money no honey

neutokoi, yes ... just like you, when i look at anything, i try to imagine if it can help my pond.

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Koi38
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May 19, 2005, 6:12 PM

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koi38, no money no honey

neutokoi, yes ... just like you, when i look at anything, i try to imagine if it can help my pond.

Me too. My honey always take my money Laugh

What about some aluminum diamond mesh. I think the hole size is approx 8mm. Just a thought Smile

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Fish4friends
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Jul 18, 2005, 9:50 PM

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Hi Jon

AFAIK the only metal safe for pond or tank use is marine grade stainless steel (some low grade stainless will rust if the surface finish is scratched "test with a magnet if it sticks it will probably rust"
Remember all fish are sensitive to most metal salts! And all metals will eventually produce salts when in water except SS,

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Graham

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Koi38
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Jul 18, 2005, 9:59 PM

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Hi Graham,

What is "AFAIK"??? Not really familiar with metals. Except SS, and yes I use magnet to test the quality. If it sticks it will rust eventually Smile

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Fish4friends
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Jul 18, 2005, 10:09 PM

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Hi Jon

Sorry! AFAIK is an acronime for "As Far As I Know"

My appologies to everyone this is the first forum with international users I have used, normaly just the UK & US users and these shortcuts tend to be used! I will try to rember users that have english as a second (or more) language! and use full statments

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Koi38
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Jul 18, 2005, 10:44 PM

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Hi Graham,

Sorry! AFAIK is an acronime for "As Far As I Know"

ROTFLMAO Tongue

rgds,
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mike c
Koi Kichi

Jul 19, 2005, 1:29 PM

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are you the same graham from koivet?

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Fish4friends
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Jul 19, 2005, 9:03 PM

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Hi Mike

Sorry No! The only other Koi forum I watch is justkoi in the UK is koivet usefull? or only for koi illness?

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Graham

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mike c
Koi Kichi

Jul 19, 2005, 11:28 PM

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we got more post traffic here than koivet, but a vet DOES run koivet so if you need fish health solutions, thats the place

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Fish4friends
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Jul 20, 2005, 12:20 AM

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Thank's Mike

A good response, I apologise for the wording of my query, I appreciate that a site run by a vet (implied in name) should give excellent advice on Koi health problems, and had intended to query whether other topics were covered rather than implying that it was not useful as my post is phrased!

Have now visited as I should have done before posting!

(now you see the reason for my post script) Laugh

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Graham

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mike c
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Jul 20, 2005, 7:59 AM

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no biggie, i was merely pointing out that they dont strike up a conversation that much. but their archives of fish health problems are plentiful.

most of the people deserted the forum because of some spat/ban/fighting of some posters.

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