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koinutx
Koi Lover

Jan 3, 2008, 11:51 AM

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hi koinutx..

i got mine in august, cud it b another left over?? Crazy

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i m no expert interm of scle removal or plastic surgery.. heheheh.. may b mohan can help us here..

rgds

Ops...yours is Aug 07? Maybe that is a Gem that is specially reserved for you. Tongue

I bot my in Mar/Apr 07 at 35-40cm. I dun think ours are from the same batch, bec your kohaku dun have that Pop Eye characteristic.(which is GOOD!) Smile

Your 30cm, could be a Jumbo tosai born early this year? Wink

thiamhwa
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Jan 3, 2008, 2:16 PM

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Hi Koinutx,

There are certainly differences in the koi even though they are from the same batch. Nonetheless, the
good quality shown here ( inclusive of Mohan's koi ) are probably due to individual koi keeping skill, IMHO.
I think Mohan's koi do not have the 'pop eyes' characteristic. In your case, it could be due to the high
protein foods which you are feeding.

With your koi now enjoying the privilege of a 160 tons size pond, hopefully we may see a major improvement
in the next 6 months. Please keep us posted.

BTW, what is this 'FD Primo' that you have used to improve on the body conformation?

Best Regards,
Thiam Hwa

koinutx
Koi Lover

Jan 4, 2008, 8:46 AM

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BTW, what is this 'FD Primo' that you have used to improve on the body conformation?

Best Regards,
Thiam Hwa

Thiam Hwa,

this is the packing looks like this.

There are 2 type, Colour-up, and Built-up.
Have not tried the colour up, was told that it was too strong that secondary hi can also come out. Pirate

thiamhwa
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Jan 4, 2008, 9:01 AM

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Hi Koinutx,

Thanks for the infor. Will have to check it out here locally.

Cheerio,
Thiam Hwa

koi@kit
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Jan 5, 2008, 7:34 AM

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Hi Thiamhwa..

check out for more koi food here.. http://maxkoifarm.com/web/Food.htm

last time i visited kepongkoi, saw a few pack there, may b u can go n check it out there..

rgds

koinutx
Koi Lover

Jan 5, 2008, 10:14 AM

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Hi Thiamhwa..

check out for more koi food here.. http://maxkoifarm.com/web/Food.htm

last time i visited kepongkoi, saw a few pack there, may b u can go n check it out there..

rgds

I think Kepong is selling the Colour only.

Max Koi and JK are selling the FD Primo food over here. Smile

koi@kit
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Jan 5, 2008, 10:38 AM

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Hi Koinutx..

any diffrent in the packing btw the FD primo and the one selling at kepong (colour up) koi food? is the one in 20kg packing selling at max the primo??

do primo and colour come in 4kg packing ?? tks

rgds

(This post was edited by koi@kit on Jan 5, 2008, 10:42 AM)

koinutx
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Jan 5, 2008, 11:17 AM

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For the FD Colour and Primo, there are some slight different in term of packaging colour and pattern. Size and design of packaging is the same. all are in 4 kg pack.

The 20kg one, I'm not sure which one, could be something call Built-up, which I didn't try before.

koi@kit
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Jan 5, 2008, 2:08 PM

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Hi Koinutx,

any diffrent when u switch to dis FD food? wat koi food u used b4 this?

koinutx
Koi Lover

Jan 5, 2008, 5:34 PM

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The fish are more active and bulky. I used FD only abt 2 mths plus (for all meals).
before that Saki Hikari Hi growth, Hi Silk and Momotaro white.
(if you look at my Sanke thread, you can see the different in Body on the Sanke on Aug 07 and Jan 08, after changing to FD food).

Also, this one will not be soften and messy like the Hi Silk when soak for a few minutes. Smile

Right now, I'm using FD 2 meal and 1 meal Saki Hikari Hi growth.....! trying to be more economical. Tongue

(This post was edited by koinutx on Jan 5, 2008, 5:43 PM)

Mohan Ghandi
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Jan 6, 2008, 12:56 PM

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hi koinutx..

i m no expert interm of scle removal or plastic surgery.. heheheh.. may b mohan can help us here..

rgds

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Hi Kit,koinutx& Thiamhwa
Neither am I an expert.
IMHO I think the scales are not removed.
The first circle is a kikusi & it is a defect- you can find a similar defect in one of my female koi.
Perhaps we can try out the strong clour food that you guys are discussing about- it might close the gap.
For the record, my 2 females are touching the 64/65 cm mark.
Hkk
Mohan. Cool

koinutx
Koi Lover

Jan 6, 2008, 8:10 PM

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Mohan, Yours at 64/65...you are a real Grower of Koi....Yours will probably past the 70 marks, when the koi is full 2 yrs old in May.... Cool

or maybe you should target 75cm by then... Tongue

How did you do that....any secret recipe to share.... Wink

or just oxygen and food.

Mohan Ghandi
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Jan 15, 2008, 8:46 PM

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Hi Koinutx,
Sorry for the belated reply.
I notice that my pond water is improving day by day.
Further I reduced the keep in spells & bounds.
The secret is you take care of the water & the kois will take care of themselves.
I feed saki high growth & colour.
Some paste food with my special requirement.
WE ARE GOING FOR THE S"PORE YOUNG KOI SHOW (19/1/080_hope to see you there.
Hkk
Mohan. Cool

(This post was edited by Mohan Ghandi on Jan 15, 2008, 8:50 PM)

koinutx
Koi Lover

Jan 16, 2008, 11:31 AM

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Yes, Mohan...hoe to see you there.
and hope your dream koi will win... Cool

Mohan Ghandi
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Jan 16, 2008, 11:15 PM

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Hi Koinutx,
We are also trying to bring along some kois from here.
It is fun attending koi shows. I feel one will have more FUN if one competes
in the show im material of the fact you win or lose.
It is not easy taking the koi to S'pore from here- if the Thais can do it why not us?
This time we are holding the show in a better & bigger venue- hope you guys will
reciprocate by taking part in our show.
Hkk
Mohan. Cool

(This post was edited by Mohan Ghandi on Jan 16, 2008, 11:35 PM)

Mohan Ghandi
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May 18, 2008, 1:31 PM

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Hello Koi Kichis

My foursome Kohakus will be reaching Nisai status soon.I thought it is about time to share the progress.It is now reduced to �twosome� because I discarded the two males.

I have decided to slow down the growth and starting feeding clour enhancing food. I want the hi to consolidate. Any comments out there?

69cm

68cm
Hkk
Mohan. Cool

(This post was edited by Mohan Ghandi on May 18, 2008, 1:34 PM)

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larz1
Koi Kichi

May 18, 2008, 8:41 PM

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Good bodies on both, but the frame on the first is very impressive, especially the tail tube. That is going to be a very thick bodied Koi. I wish the little window in the large hi plate would either close completely or open up all the way to the lateral line. Perhaps a little lemon juice and a q-tip could fix that some day if it needs a little help... Wink

Shiroji and Beni on both appear equal and strong. The sashi on the larger one blurs the break behind the head, but time will clear that up. The shiro in the tail tube and down the sides tells the true story, which is very nice. The heads are still a bit yellow, but less so than before. Considering they are on color enhanced food it isn't bad at all, and should clear up when you switch to a show prep diet down the road.

OK, time for others to speak up so I can read and learn more Smile

Mohan Ghandi
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May 18, 2008, 11:44 PM

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Perhaps a little lemon juice and a q-tip could fix that some day if it needs a little help... Wink

Hi Larzl.
Can you pls explain further.
Hi Thiamhwa,
Did you try FD primo -how is the results-where can we get it in K.L.?
Hkk
Mohan. Cool

(This post was edited by Mohan Ghandi on May 18, 2008, 11:48 PM)

larz1
Koi Kichi

May 19, 2008, 3:26 AM

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A cotton swab with lemon juice can be used to "erase" stray beni or clean up unwanted beni if a fish needs touching up. It is naturally acidic, and has some bleaching properties without negative side effects. It works well for small areas and requires no scalpel. (I realize it is a sensitive topic for some, but we all know well that a little touch up work is quite common, especially among breeders and dealers)
The lemon juice softens the color cells and penetrates deeply enough to lift stray beni from the skin. It takes a few weeks for the full results to be seen, and a second treatment may be needed to finish the job. It is especially good for removing spots of secondary hi that pop up in unwanted areas, and it does no damage to the shiroji or sumi in the case of sanke/showa.

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