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DavidSoon
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Nov 14, 2008, 9:22 PM

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Dear all

Notice this forum have been quiet for awhile . Hope to bring something fresh into this forum .
These are my 2 latest collection from Sakai FF . Please feel free to comment on these 2 Kois .

Fresh from the November 2008 mud pond Harvest !!! Sly

Cheers
David

kemeer
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Nov 14, 2008, 11:04 PM

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Hi David,

Great looking pair you got here. Very good body on both. Big Head. Big Mouth. Thick Tail-tube (especially on the kohaku). Exceptional Shiroji. What more can you ask for. Smile

Mind sharing from which oyagois these pieces are....

Regards

Sly

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DavidSoon
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Nov 15, 2008, 12:03 AM

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Hi Keemer

The Kohaku is of Dancing queen , while the Sanke is of Beauty Rose . Beauty Rose bllodline has got it's credential the last few years , but not so much on Dancing queen . Keeping finger cross on new bloodlines . Sly

Cheers
David

kemeer
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Nov 15, 2008, 12:26 AM

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Bro David

,

I smiled a bit when you said Dancing Queen. Wink

What ever names would the breeders be coming up next. Britney Spears? Pavarotti? Madonna? Wink

I remembered a Dynamite Ochiba Kohaku being posted somewhere in the forum. I think the mother could have been from a BIG Ochiba. Any idea how these kohakus would perform? Is it normal to be pairing gosankes w/ non gosankes in order to perhaps achieve better bodies, beni/sumi and growth potential...

Smile

dechoong
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Nov 15, 2008, 1:36 AM

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Hi David,

Your selections never fail to impress me Shocked

. Mind telling us how old are these 2?

Cheers,
Dennis

ikoi
Koi Lover

Nov 15, 2008, 2:45 AM

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Hello sifu David,

These 2 are awesome! Sly

You keep me dreaming by looking at these babies. Sly

Imagine that these two are swimming in a spotless and rich oxygenated water. Looking at them swimming will bring a lot of enjoyment and happiness, specially during the current economic turmoil. Sly

Kohaku: great body line (I believe it's still not at its best shape yet), nice shiroji, deep beni. Kiwa and sashi are great. Very balanced pattern. Space between hi plates are equally placed. Very attractive.
Sanke: Just awesome, don't know what else to say. Sly

As Kemeer mentioned, its tailtub is not as great as the kohaku's.

My comments are just a beginner's comments. Please point out what I missed, so I can enjoy them more while appreciating them. Wink

Thanks for sharing with us! Wink

Cheers,
Victor

monscine
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Nov 15, 2008, 10:04 AM

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I want to break free...I want to break free...I want to break free from the my messy kois to these two quality Angelic

kemeer
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Nov 15, 2008, 11:01 AM

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Hahahaha.....

Handy, didn't know you were a QUEENS fan. hahaha.... Cool

You~ Are a CHAMPION~ My Friend~
And we know You'll~ Keep on Fighting, Till the END~

You~ Are a CHAMPION, You~ Are a CHAMPION OF THE WORLD......

Wakawakawakawakawaka..... Sly

DavidSoon
Koi Lover

Nov 15, 2008, 5:53 PM

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Hi Brother Keemer Sly

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During the Sakai Oct Auction 08 , indeed there was a Dynamite Ochiba Kohaku put out ... and it went off for a bomb .. Sly

. The Ochiba used for this spawn was way above a meter . Only setback using the ochiba and gonsake pairing is the turnout result which leans more to ochiba / Chagoi with little turnout on Gonsanke or Kohaku in this case Sly

. Might not turn out feasible for Sakai . Size wise ?? Probably have to wait another 2 or 3 more years to see the outcome . Sly

Hi Dennis

The Dancing Queen Kohaku is a nisai , while the Beauty Rose is a young sansai . I have not seen these 2 Kois yet ... only booked them through photos provided . Sly

Probably will try to keep you guys posted on this fish development in Sakai next year .

Brother Handy ... Sly

No need to break free lah .... Sly

These 2 not in my pond yet this year ... Sly

Next year when they're back , probably you can swim with them if you want .
Test result came back from Germany on my water parameter ... fit for swimming now !!!! ( ... but at your own risk !!! Sly

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Hi Victor Sly

These 2 kois are young and possess the traits of many past Champions . Probably will send the Sanke for All Japan in January 2009 in Tokyo .
Keep in touch Victor . Sly

Cheers
David

t28
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Nov 22, 2008, 9:25 PM

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All the best for Tokyo 2009! Top class kohaku & sanke.

monscine
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Nov 23, 2008, 12:56 PM

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Uncle David,

I'm afraid if I want to jump to your pond, I have to pass some tests first on Mount E. to make sure I'm not contaminated by any residue Sly

My pond has been empty for about 2 weeks for upgrading the system. Meanwhile, I'm waiting foreign currency that go crazy and wildly to be stable before buying another equipment which are already on my list.

Cheers,
Handy

DavidSoon
Koi Lover

Nov 23, 2008, 1:30 PM

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Brother Handy Smile

Like many , I have to agree with you that foreign currencies , especially the Yen has gone up very high , making bidding and buying of Kois from Japan now very painful . With the economic woes globally , we are slowing very much here . Kois gets more and more expensive the last few years . I think it's about time , we have to try to tame the prices down as well , or at least hold our horses for a while Sly

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You are always welcome to jump into my pond anytime Brother Handy .. Sly

no need to clean yourself first ..!! Sly

Hope you can kick-start your pond soonest .

Cheers
David

jackyolk
Koi Lover

Dec 6, 2008, 8:29 PM

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To All koi buddy, bro & friends, I had back, now at Sin. Wink

This kohaku was coming Nisai, Female, Size: 54cm, The Mother was 1m, Belong to sakai, won at 30th Shinkokai Koi show [ Grand Champion mother ] But this kohaku breeder is ??? Hee hee Tongue

How you guys think about this kohaku QUALITY??? Crazy

My thinking it will win grand champion at japan show for future, do you belive my eye??? Angelic

Please comment Big Bro. Sly

Cheers,
jackyolk Cool

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Mohan Ghandi
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Dec 6, 2008, 10:31 PM

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Hi Jacky,
This kohaku is great except that it lacks maki -will not look great when it is a jumbo.
Don't forget tomorrow is Mohantaro selection day & you have given your name.
Hkk
Mohan. Cool

monscine
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Dec 7, 2008, 2:12 AM

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Uncle David,

Oot a bit, but I just want to congratulate you as the person who keep and nurture the GC of 5th All Indonesian Koi Show held from 5-7 Dec 2008. She's just remarkable...and please forgive for not asking your permission first to upload...but here she is when she still at your funtastic pond. Another one made the pearl dust??? Tongue

Cheers,

The GC is the kohaku at below one Wink

and the full coverage of the show could be seen HERE

(This post was edited by monscine on Dec 7, 2008, 2:14 AM)

DavidSoon
Koi Lover

Dec 7, 2008, 8:09 AM

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Hi Brother Handy Smile

Many many thanks for the wonderful update and news on this newly crowned Grand Champion , Smile

appreciated your good effort in keeping all of us updated on the All Indonesia Koi Show 2008 .
This Kohaku was indeed deemed as a "already downhill" Kohaku at 9 yrs old , but was rejuvenated and brought back her youthful look through "grooming" and care , She looks exactly the same Champion when she won the Rinyukai Grand Champion in 2005 , much to the surprise of most of the Japanese Breeders who outright voted her as the Grand Champion when they noticed the big change from her last Koi Show appeareance during the 1st Asia Koi Show . Indeed she's still a very competitive Kohaku for the next few years if the new keeper can maintain her lustre and shine for the next few years . She put on in length as well as body girth the last 6 months , much to the surprise of many who thought this Kohaku has finished her competitive days in Koi Show .
Would wish to explain more about this fish and her winning , but unfortunately , I have to fly to KL shortly to attend to some other matters. Dun think I can get hold of a computer to continue the discussion for the next few days .

many thanks once again Brother Handy for the great effort . Sly

Cheers
David Soon

PH8
Koi Lover

Dec 7, 2008, 10:06 AM

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Hi David,

No worries, you can reply to this when you're back from your Malaysia trip. Just wondering what were her respective sizes when she won the 2005 Rinyukai GC, during the Asia Cup in March this year and during this just-concluded Indonesian Show? Just a point of curiosity, as I think her size was not as important as the way you managed to maintain and rejuvenate the shine and lustre of a koi that many would consider relatively old.

Heartiest congrats on a super job done Sly

and have a good business trip.

Cheers,
Paul

jackyolk
Koi Lover

Dec 7, 2008, 10:18 AM

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In Reply To

Hi Jacky,
This kohaku is great except that it lacks maki -will not look great when it is a jumbo.
Don't forget tomorrow is Mohantaro selection day & you have given your name.

Mohan bro, for this kohaku that i post, i still did not buy, to expensive, i can said, i stay at japan for 2months + this time,
This the only kohaku that i have that kind of feel, it will win a Grand Champion at future [ Japan Show ]. Just only my feel. Blush

Let see bro & guys. Cool

For yours Mohantaro selection, you select for me, any pc also can. Wink

Cheers

Best Regards,
jackyolk Laugh

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jackyolk
Koi Lover

Dec 8, 2008, 11:08 AM

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These are My new koi from Sakai, The Last Auction. Smile

I had Bought total about 200pcs 2years to 4years old, All Female, If you guys want me to post up for view, give me a bit more time. More & More kois i will up for view soon. Thank You Sly

Please comments koi Bro. Crazy

Cheers,
jackyolk Angelic

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Zinger
Koi Lover

Dec 9, 2008, 9:01 PM

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Mohan

Excuse my ignorance...but what is MAKI?

Zinger
Koi Lover

Dec 10, 2008, 8:48 PM

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Mohan

You dont fancy taking a stab at answering the request for clarification?

Regards

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