Home  

  Main Index MAIN
INDEX 		Search Posts SEARCH
POSTS 		Who's Online WHO'S
ONLINE 		Log in LOG
IN

Home: KOI Talk: Koi Appreciation:
Soragoi???

 





 


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 4, 2002, 9:40 PM

Post #1 of 17 (4221 views)
Shortcut
Soragoi??? Can't Post
Could you tell me if the picture of a Ginrin Soragoi is really a soragoi? just want to make sure - what do you think of the Kohaku at the bottom left side? Is that good?


We have reserved the Soragoi but I just would like to know it's real name.

Ching


Eric Lim
Koi Lover


Mar 4, 2002, 11:56 PM

Post #2 of 17 (4212 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Chingbee] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Hi! Mr. Chingbee,


It's a Ginrin Chaigoi. Wink
Metallic Chaigoi is called Kin/Gin Chaigoi.

Soragoi color is grey.
Metallic Sorgoi is called Nezu Ogon.

The Sandan Kohaku has good pattern, but weak in kiwa & poor body shape (pot-belly).

Hope you don't mind I being frank. Blush

Smile Happy koi hunting.


Rdgs,
Eric Lim


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 5, 2002, 11:48 AM

Post #3 of 17 (4193 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Eric Lim] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
No Eric I don't mind your frankness, in fact I really welcome it - that kohaku is being sold at a very high price, so I'm sure not gonna be buying it, but I wanted to have an honest opinion on it.

Thank you for confirming the real name of that chagoi, all the while I thought it's soragoi :)

I'll make sure to send a picture of the koi's here first before my purchase :)

Ching


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 5, 2002, 1:32 PM

Post #4 of 17 (4186 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Eric Lim] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Mr. Lim,

oh by the way, I'm female not male Sly, real name is Anna, chinese name is Chingbee Blush

Chingbee


Eric Lim
Koi Lover


Mar 5, 2002, 4:59 PM

Post #5 of 17 (4176 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Chingbee] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Hi! Anna,


So malu! Blush. Sorry.
But it is a pleasure to see ladies active in koi keeping also. Cool

Keep it up.


Regards,
Eric


Mark
Koi Kichi

Mar 8, 2002, 12:42 PM

Post #6 of 17 (4143 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Eric Lim] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Eric,

Could those shiny scales are the result of the reflection from a camera flash light? Its seems like a green chagoi.


Eric Lim
Koi Lover


Mar 8, 2002, 4:59 PM

Post #7 of 17 (4138 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Mark] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Hi! Mark,

Green chaigoi are the lighter brown type.
This is the normal darker brown type.
Then there is the reddish type which I'll call Hi Chaigoi.
The very dark to near black type in my opinion are like Magoi - of not much value.

Whatever - for any good koi = the head must be clean. Smile
This one - I'll very sure, its the Ginrin type. Quite common actually.
Now, we even have the Chaigoi Doitsu Pearl Ginrin - plenty at Nippon Koi Farm. Wink

Cheers. Koi Show is coming - more jumbo koi to see. Saliva man....Tongue

Rdgs,
Eric


Arcen
Koi Lover

Mar 9, 2002, 12:39 AM

Post #8 of 17 (4128 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Eric Lim] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Hi,I don't wish to sound rude or anything,but here in england a 4ft MAGOI sold recently for £4,000.So they may not be colourful,but can be worth a lot of money!Cool


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 9, 2002, 12:05 PM

Post #9 of 17 (4116 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Eric Lim] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm very sure this chagoi is ginrin - not just a reflection of the flash Smile by the way Eric - the kohaku is not at all pot belly - it was due to the angle of the picture - I just came back from the dealer and saw it from above - the belly is not protruding like the picture above. The white is really nice and clean, the red is not so red yet but I think it will improve with age - but I will not be buying it as it is expensive. Tongue

Ching


HWONG
Koi Addict

Mar 9, 2002, 3:40 PM

Post #10 of 17 (4108 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Chingbee] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Hi Chingbee,

Just for comparatives, How big is the kohaku and how much were you quoted. Thru my surfing,and from photos of kois being offered by dealers like Peter waddington in the UK, the prices for nice looking kois about 30cm are much cheaper than those available here. But of course photos can be deceiving. So we end up looking for small kois but inexperience can end you with a bunch of kois you neither want nor have the heart to dispose of. Thats why I posted the Koi Selection Thread. Dear Mark and Gurus alike; perhaps you can share your wisdom.

Rgds.


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 9, 2002, 3:47 PM

Post #11 of 17 (4107 views)
Shortcut
Re: [HWONG] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
It is about 40cm and about US$500 - from Japan

Ching


HWONG
Koi Addict

Mar 9, 2002, 4:28 PM

Post #12 of 17 (4104 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Chingbee] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
The price appear similar to those here like a lovely Sanke I was tempted to buy, but the quality I cannot comment. I have been shown two different kohakus of Approx.40cm, one USD2,500 and the other USD 4,000. I cud not figure out where the major difference was between the 2 kois. Both looked beautiful to me.

Some one told me if you like it it is worth the price asked! May be thats why friends always exclaim "wow your fish are so beautiful!"....to remain on the invite list....Ha Ha....

Thanks n Rgds


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 9, 2002, 5:47 PM

Post #13 of 17 (4100 views)
Shortcut
Re: [HWONG] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
My son feeding the kois at my dealers pond this morning! Sly


Ching


HWONG
Koi Addict

Mar 10, 2002, 11:03 AM

Post #14 of 17 (4086 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Chingbee] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Where is mom? Nice to get the young ones into a hobby and can be considered Father/Mom and son thing. How old is your son? ......My 10 yr old son sitting next to me wants to know the answer to the million dollar question:How to train the kois to feed like your son did? May be your dealer can tell. Come to think of it; kois at the dealers should be frighten as they are constantly being netted or running for dear lives each time a koi is sold or shown. BUT they are not. Our kois will run away as if they see ghost when all you want to do is to feed them!


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 10, 2002, 9:31 PM

Post #15 of 17 (4070 views)
Shortcut
Re: [HWONG] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
Mom was behind the camera Tongue my son is gonna be 13 this year, actually my dealers kois started hand feeding like that when he introduces a 30 inches chagoi in his pond.

I tried it at home and voila!! my biggest koi (the doitsu hariwake) started hand feeding. All I did was (patience) get a piece of bread first thing in the morning (when they had nothing to eat yet) and immerse the bread into the water - I had to wait several minutes, keeps on holding unto the bread and trying to tease them into eating, first the doitsu tried it (timidly at first) and then one hi-fin ogon tried a little bite. So out of the 19 kois in the pond - only 2 took bites.

Tonight, I tried again and as usual the hariwake was the first to eat - and voraciously at that!! no more shyness Shocked, the hi-fin ogon also took some bite and another hi-fin kohaku tried - well, I'm very satisfied and was soooo excited to tell my friends!! hahahaha Cool

I'll try again tomorrow morning.

Chingbee


Vincent
Koi Lover

Mar 11, 2002, 10:55 AM

Post #16 of 17 (4044 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Chingbee] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
hi Chingbee,



Really envy you that u can handfeed your koi. My koi are more shy and eat only when i went away Crazy. So I suspect it is because of my tank size. Mine is a 6 by 2.5 by 2.5 feet glass tank, with both sides covered so that the koi are not so affected by movement around them.

Would like to know your pond/tank size. Thanks.

vincent


Chingbee
Koi Lover

Mar 11, 2002, 12:20 PM

Post #17 of 17 (4036 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Vincent] Soragoi??? [In reply to] Can't Post
12 feet by 5 feet and about 3 feet depth- you can see my present pond at the member's pond column - it has no bottom drain and I hope Unsure I could start the renovation by April. I again hand feed the kois this morning and as usual only 3 got the guts to go near my hands Cool

My initial design of the new pond will be about (we change our minds every now and then Wink) 20ft x 12 feet x 5-6 feet. I might make it bigger when excavation started, that depends on the actual size when the hole could be seen Crazy

Ching

 
 
 



Search for (options) Back to Koi.com.my Main Page

  Disclaimer  Privacy Statement     
Copyright 2001~ 2002 Hileytech Sdn Bhd , All Rights Reserved.  
No part of the forum postings can be copied without prior permission from Hileytech Sdn Bhd and the Author of the Posting.
For comments and Suggestion, Please contact the Webmaster at koi@hileytech.com