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dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Sep 7, 2005, 2:09 AM

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me & my son Tom just got in from our mudpond
thought we would share these pics with you guys Smile


































koi@kit
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Sep 7, 2005, 10:17 AM

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hi there,

great babies u got there.. r the bigger one the parents? which part r u guys from??Wink


StateBorder
Koi Lover


Sep 7, 2005, 10:57 AM

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Yeah Dream koi where are you at?

Do all the parent is kohaku and sanke or you do have other type of koi as parent? some fry have black on their back like asagi.... just guessing
Father: Shusui. Mother: Platinum doitsu and showa. what am I going to get?


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Sep 7, 2005, 6:03 PM

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Philippines
the farm is down south of Manila

the parent of the frys is a ki matsuba i purchased from Mr. Hirasawa Seitaro
through kenji Tani of the Tani Fish Farm in Narita.
The female ki matsuba is sired by a kujaku bred by Oofuchi
(BEST KUJAKU 45cm category-2002 All Japan Koi Show, Ryutsu Center, Tokyo Japan)
loaned from Mr. Mikee Romero.
Three more male kujakus i used as additional male parent that I personally selected
from the Marudoh Koi farm with Marudoh's guidance


koi@kit
Senior Member


Sep 8, 2005, 10:02 AM

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hi there,

thanks for the info. i got one marudo sanke, not very sure about this bloodline, can u tell me more?Wink

how big can they grow in 1 or 2 yr?? any special way to take care of them? what to expect from marudoh koi?


(This post was edited by koi@kit on Sep 8, 2005, 10:04 AM)


mike c
Koi Kichi


Sep 8, 2005, 9:20 PM

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wow, looks like a lot of work!

do you have more pics of your tategois?



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KoiKichi
Koi Lover

Sep 9, 2005, 9:18 AM

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Dreamkoi,

Great job on your breeding! The way Tom is culling is doing it like the japanese way! Are the big ones the parents or the locally bred Kois?

KoiKichi


betsymax
Koi Lover


Sep 9, 2005, 10:57 PM

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hey boss, happy culling.Angelic

where are the kohakus and showas


larz1
Koi Kichi


Sep 10, 2005, 12:30 AM

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I can't speak for dreamkoi, but at least 1/2 of my fry that started out looking yellow, orange, and even platinum turned kohaku one step at a timeSmile. A few of the bekko and utsuri looking younglings began developing hi markings and began looking like sanke and showaSmileSmile. That is why culling starts with deformities only and color patterns are allowed time to develop in the rest.


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Sep 10, 2005, 2:20 PM

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Great job on your breeding! The way Tom is culling is doing it like the japanese way! Are the big ones the parents or the locally bred Kois?

Thanks koikichi.Smile
Tom is holding a goshiki and my staff has a kohaku

the parent of the frys is a ki matsuba i purchased from Mr. Hirasawa Seitaro
through kenji Tani of the Tani Fish Farm in Narita.
The female ki matsuba is sired by a kujaku bred by Oofuchi
(BEST KUJAKU 45cm category-2002 All Japan Koi Show, Ryutsu Center, Tokyo Japan)
loaned from Mr. Mikee Romero.
Three more male kujakus i used as additional male parent that I personally selected
from the Marudoh Koi farm with Marudoh's guidance


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Sep 10, 2005, 2:32 PM

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hey boss, happy culling.
where are the kohakus and showas

thanks pedro

as aragorn said this is a lot of work, but we're happy with the results.
the gosankes are harder ( if not impossible ) to produce, i mean the finer gosankes!

the kohakus and the showas will be harvested on another occassion
these fingerlings i posted came from a ki matsuba and kujaku parents




dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Sep 10, 2005, 2:45 PM

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I can't speak for dreamkoi, but at least 1/2 of my fry that started out looking yellow, orange, and even platinum turned kohaku one step at a time. A few of the bekko and utsuri looking younglings began developing hi markings and began looking like sanke and showa. That is why culling starts with deformities only and color patterns are allowed time to develop in the rest

i agree larz1

thats why when one time in Japan i asked Gonchang of the Gonjiro koi farm (a senior koi judge for the All Japan Shinkokai)
on some pointers regarding how to breed a better kohaku.....he replied by saying that he finds it also difficult to produce kohakus too although the red and whites are easiest to make



larz1
Koi Kichi


Sep 10, 2005, 9:31 PM

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I noticed several good size matsuba among the fry so your parentage seems to have paid offWink. I also noticed Tancho, several 2-3&4 step kohaku and one possible inazumaSmile. I look forward to seeing more from your next pull and wish you great successSly.


mikoi
Koi Lover


Sep 23, 2005, 9:57 PM

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KEEP THE PICTURES COMING!!!
awesome post.

lets see the showa's (my fav)

more more more....I give you 5 stars!!!


cuda
Koi Lover


Oct 2, 2005, 9:24 AM

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Thanks, that was so much fun! Please do more. judy









Once I tried too hard to control things in the pond....the frogs left.


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Oct 9, 2005, 7:44 AM

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will do mikoi
tnx for your 5 stars
Smile


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Oct 9, 2005, 7:51 AM

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tnx too judy
will do post more

mike


estanque_koi
Koi Lover


Dec 13, 2005, 6:21 AM

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Hi all,
greetings to Dreamkoi and his son Tom from Spain!
wonderful work, thanks a lot for sharing all these exciting pictures.
Nice Koi and beautiful views!
Could you please give some details of your mud ponds? I would like to know the approximate size and depth, as well as what kind of water parameters you have there.
I couldn't see any aeration device in your mud pond, do you use any kind of aeration system? Neither I appreciate any device to protect the fry against predatory birds, Isn't it an issue for you in Philippines?
I'm also curious about your stocking rates and your culling schedule.
I'm just a Koi hobbyist and amateur breeder, this was my third breeding season but I do that just for the sake of learning. Every year I only keep just a few tosai and give away the rest to friends.
All the best,

Diego Jordano
Chairman Spanish Koi Keeper's Society (A.E.K.)
www.elkoi.com


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Jan 7, 2006, 11:33 PM

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Greetings Diego

my mudpond depth averages 1 mtr deep, some deeper, some shallower.
we just took off the predator protector and just replaced them with better new ones.
no aeration since our stocking rate is low.
thanks for posting
and all the best to your breeding

michael hernandez


RamilDy
Koi Lover


Jul 2, 2007, 12:50 AM

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wow Mike your like having fun with your harvest hehehe


jacky teoh
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Sep 18, 2007, 12:26 AM

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hi..i oso a koi lover....may i knw where u frm???i oso hv a fish pond like yours........


rj
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Dec 18, 2007, 9:35 PM

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are u selling koi?Smile

 
 
 



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