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AndrewS
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Jul 5, 2006, 9:55 PM

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I know all about zebra finch genetics and colours but am new to it with koi.
How does colour inheritance work? Is a koi always one colour or another, with new colours cropping up due to genetic phenomena? Or is there continuous variation between extremes? Are specific colours dominant or recessive?
Andrew


utsuri
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Jul 5, 2006, 11:22 PM

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Hello Andrew,

Koi genetics and coloration are very complex. Not bieng a mad scientist on this myself I don't know exactly how this works. I am currently working with some stuff on breeding koi to gain more knowledge about the hobby. I have been working with Kohaku this year in a controlled breeding program. Of the spawning I kept approximately 500 eggs. Through recent culling processes I am down to roughly 175 fry.

From this spawning I have the following colorations.

Kohaku 20%
Shiro Muji 10% all white
Hajiro 5% all black
Aka Hajiro 30% red white white tipped fins
Beni Goi 5% all red
Ki Goi 30% all yellow

My take on the results of this expirement is this. All of these colors are part of the genetic distribution that lies behind but, are also part of Kohaku gentics. Even though we are breeding a full breed type of Kohaku in a close line breeding, all of the genetic traits are showing. Producing the various color types. While at the same time, remembering that what we see as a patterns final product is only a color mutation and not a breed type.
The best way to improve the percentage of what someone is breeding, in most cases, is done by breeding like color mutations.

The same thing can be found in Showa koi. They will produce Showa, Kohaku, Utsuri, Hajiro, and many more. However, you cannot assume that a Kohaku will hold true colors throughout life if it comes from Showa parents. The best results for Kohaku will come from breeding Kohaku x Kohaku.


AndrewS
Koi Lover

Jul 5, 2006, 11:28 PM

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Thanks a lot utsuri, your reply is much appreciated. Now i've got some information to work on. It would be interesting to hear results from anyone else who has bred kohaku x kohaku. Perhaps we could collate all the information to try and help us all understand a bit more!
Are these 175 fry all from the same parents?


utsuri
Koi Lover

Jul 6, 2006, 3:46 AM

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Yes the parents are all Kohaku and they were breed this year. Of the kohaku they are showing the beginings of nice patterns. We will see how they turn out come October.

 
 
 



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