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martin99
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Aug 28, 2004, 2:41 AM

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hey every one i have just recently got my koi i have got two 12 '' ghost koi i have 9 small koi ranging from 4 to 10'' i have a large 16 inch showa and another 16 inch yamabuki ogon which i bought for 75 pound but my problem is the 2 ghost koi have spawned on my oxygenating plants so ive took them out and put them into a tank and they have all hatched so what should i do now it was weird how the ghost koi spawned after just 3 days

thanx martin


koifishgirl
Koi Kichi


Aug 28, 2004, 3:27 AM

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This is a job for kgt1223
Judy


divein
Koi Lover


Aug 28, 2004, 3:35 AM

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hi! go to spawning of koi .comCool


linear
Koi Lover


Aug 28, 2004, 3:36 AM

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yes call for kgt!!

Once you start koi you just can't stop.

Smilei love my doitsu sankeSmile


kgt1223
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Aug 28, 2004, 4:12 AM

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Hello Martin

As this was an unplanned spawning I wouldnt worry about it to much. U have already moved the fry into another container with the plants. Add a fine bubbler bar to one end of the tank and see what happens. If the eggs are viable then they should hatch out within four to five days. They will then feed off of their yolk sacs for another day or two after the third day they will start swimming up to the top for their first gulp of air. Once they have filled their air bladder they will be able to swimm about freely. At this point u can start introducing very very small portions of finely ground up flakes. They will nibble quite alot of food off of the algae on the plant stems as well. There are other methods of feeding the fry like egg yolks and liquid fry foods but in your situation I would not reccomend those as they will foul the water very rapidly. Usaully for a planned spawning one will already have several cultures of brine shrimp in different stages of hatching to feed the fry.

I just recently threw fifty eggs in a 150 gallon tank with one huge lily pad and an air bubbler. After thirty days or so I remembered about them. I expected to find a real mess but on inspection I found all them healthy and kicking. I can only assume that they were feeding off of the algae on the massive lily pads stems. Think that we all over due it when it comes to feeding these young fry. They are tough little guys and were there are plants there is always a way.

I have to run..Wifes B day and all that. Will check back on u later.

Good Luck, Kiefer
KIEFER

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koifishgirl
Koi Kichi


Aug 28, 2004, 9:25 AM

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WHAT LUCK YOU HAVETongue I FOUND A SMALL SINGLE FRY IN MY POND TODAY WHEN I WAS CLEANING AND YOU GET 50 EGGS AND ARE ABLE TO HATCH AND RAISE WITHOUT DOING A THING Crazy ANYWAY, GOOD LUCK I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!! I GOT A TANCHO BUTTERFLY KOI IN THE BABIES I PURCHASED, DID NOT KNOW UNTIL I CLEANED MY POND AND WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE LITTLE GUY. I HOPE HE MAKES IT AND GROWS TO BE A NICE FISH. Laugh TELL YOUR WIFE HAPPY BIRTHDAY FROM KOIFISHGIRL OR JUDY.
Judy


martin99
Koi Lover


Sep 1, 2004, 1:32 AM

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thank you everyone you have helped me alot especially you kgt1223 the yamabuki ogon you have in your picture looks exactly like mine my fish have all hatched they are starting to go black they were translucent at first and now they are starting to look like fish they are getting there pectoral fins i have some oxygenating plants in with the fry will they eat the algae off it i have one small question for you is it ok to starve your big fish for a day or 2 to get them tame because my large koi are quite timid at the moment and i cant wait to handfeed them thanx alot again martin


kgt1223
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Sep 1, 2004, 5:47 AM

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Hey Martin

Sounds like their doing ok. Just remember to watch water quality and DO NOT OVER FEED!!!!! They require very little at this age. Yes, they will eat the algae from the plant. The plants also offer a bit of bio conversion as well.

RE Hand feeding... Click on this old link of mine.


http://www.koi.com.my/cgi-bin/koiforum/gforum.cgi?post=34414#34414
KIEFER


martin99
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Sep 2, 2004, 12:16 AM

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i tried the shrimp thing with my large koi and it worked really well the yamabuki ogon and one of the 2 ghost koi came and ate straight from my fingers how long will it be until i have to start culing my fry after i have culled the deformed fry do i put the others into the big pond what should i do if the water quality in the container gets contaminated
martin


kgt1223
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Sep 2, 2004, 6:36 AM

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U dont wait for water to get contaminated, u do a 20 to 50 percent water change every other day or so depending on fry load.

Putting young koi in the main pond would be a bad idea. Most of the time they become quick snacks for the bigger guys.
KIEFER


martin99
Koi Lover


Sep 4, 2004, 10:56 PM

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is it tap water or water from the main pond that i put in the seperate container with my fry my fry are 3 weeks old now when should i start to see a difference in colour and size at the moment they are about a cm long


linear
Koi Lover


Sep 4, 2004, 11:05 PM

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probally use the water from your pond if the paremeters are good, u can fill it with tap water but ull have to wait a few days and ull have to treat it to remove chlorine and chloromines as well, so you could use it after treated and 3 days been running through the filter!

Once you start koi you just can't stop.

Smilei love my doitsu sankeSmile

 
 
 



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