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Abangk
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Jul 5, 2007, 10:41 AM

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Welcome to my Shallow Pond..

Constructed in May 2007 with the size of 30' x 5' x 2' deep. The depth was too shallow as I came into this forum just after the floor was heavily concreted and cannot be modified. Therefore the bottom drainage system was also unable to be done.

However with the comments, recommendations and guides from many Koi Sifus of this great forum, the pond was constructed with the following system:
1. One way flow of the water towards the filtration chamber - to ensure that the debris can be carried away by the flow into the Settlement chamber.
2. Using the Skippy Filtration system - cheap and very effective.
3. 13,000L/hr pump - to pump out the water from the filtration into the waterfall pot and to 4 side outlets of water jet.

The above system is working very well and managed to clean the pond's floor continuously and treating the water to crystal clear with accurate water parameters and without any experience of algae problem ever since the final water topup. Cool

The full view..

The main attraction..

Best regards
Abangk

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Abangk
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Jul 5, 2007, 10:54 AM

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This is the Skippy Filtration System:
1. Bundles of kitchen scrub pads.
2. Air pump to supply oxygen.

Skippy Filtration System.

My cheerful Kois... Laugh

Best regards
Abangk

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Abangk
Koi Lover

Jul 5, 2007, 11:01 AM

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And not to be missed is my daughter's Guppy ponds...

For us to share the interest... Cool

Best regards
Abangk

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THEWIKWAKDJ
Koi Lover

Aug 11, 2007, 6:33 AM

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looks great.

schikla
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Aug 13, 2007, 11:40 PM

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Hello
its very very nice -> respect
I hope you enjoy this beautyful oase
sincerly
schikla

www.japan-garten.de.tl

Abangk
Koi Lover

Aug 21, 2007, 1:50 PM

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Thank you very much friends...

I really enjoying it,
First in the morning when I step out of my door, I will go straight to the pond to feed my 28 kois for breakfast,
As soon as I parked my car back from office, I go straight to the pond to feed them for the dinner.. he.. he..

They are really make my moment cheerful and my wife & daughter keep counting their Guppies which are very productive.. Sly

Best regards
Abangk

dannysao
Koi Lover

Dec 25, 2007, 4:01 PM

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Hi Sifu
I am research on to build a fish pond, most likely to have koi, but after some research I realised my knowledge is so minimum on fish pond, about the depth, filter, pump and cost etc...

first can I know what is the budget I need to allocate for the pond, I ask a contractor, he said need about 10K for 13X5X2 pond...

any good contractor to recomend, i live in Cheras, near len sen.

Abangk
Koi Lover

Dec 26, 2007, 10:42 AM

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Hi Dannysao,

Before the Sifu provide you the detail advise, there are 2 ways to build the pond:
1) Get an experience contractor
2) Manage on your own by getting 2-3 Indo workers.

I built my pond with option no.2. It is much cheaper but you need to be around most of the time to monitor the job.

First of all go for a minimum of 3' depth. 13x5x3 is much better. However the 13ft will become 10ft left as 3'x5' required for the filtration chamber. You may need to use "One way water flow system" as the pond size is limited to have a Dry chamber, let see what the Sifus have to comment on this.

Get the drawing accurate and post it here for others to comment.

Estimate for option 2 (DIY) inclusive:
1. Excavation cost - 100
2. Pipings - 100
3. Floor concrete - 950
4. Wall bricks - 200
5. Wiring - 20
6. Plastering - 400
7. Grout - 50
8. Tiles - 600
9. Labour cost - 3150 (Estimate 70 x 3men x 15days)
(Pond construction - 5550)

10. Pump - 550
11. Brushes - 200
12. Jap mat - 120
13. Scrub pads, if you prefer "Skippy" BH - 300
14. Air pump - 150
15. Corals - 10
(Equipment - 1330)

Estimate total: 6880

Best regards
Abangk

dannysao
Koi Lover

Dec 26, 2007, 6:05 PM

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Abangk
This is good, at least now I have a baseline for the fish pond cost estimate.
I will try to take the measurement and pic and post it here for comment.

gogsard
Koi Lover

Dec 26, 2007, 6:08 PM

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Abg K, Lovely pond. I envy you. I'm planning to build my own too. Got few question

1. How many bags of cement for the whole pond ?
2. Did u use BRC wire mesh for the pond floor ?
3. Any additive to add to water proof the cement ?
4. Did u use epoxy paint for the pond surface ? If yes what brand ?
5. Did you tile the inside wall to the bottom of the pond ?
6. Did u use acrylic/perspex lips for the waterfall ?

Thats all for now. More to come Laugh

Abangk
Koi Lover

Dec 28, 2007, 12:14 PM

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Thanks Gogsard,

Please again be informed that I am not a contractor but capable enough to build my pond successfully.. All the mixture and the requirements of the goods were done by my worker and I took him to the hardware shop to purchase accordingly.

1. How many bags of cement for the whole pond ?
** Based on size, as for my pond I really can't recalled as I kept buying as an when required. Perhaps around 30 bags Crazy

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2. Did u use BRC wire mesh for the pond floor ?
** This one is for sure as my ground is very soft.

3. Any additive to add to water proof the cement ?
** Yes please refer the above grout - its like a black grease used for bathroom.

4. Did u use epoxy paint for the pond surface ? If yes what brand ?
** No

5. Did you tile the inside wall to the bottom of the pond ?
** Yes all around and the floor with black tiles.

6. Did u use acrylic/perspex lips for the waterfall ?
** No, just used the tile too.
Cool

...

Best regards
Abangk

(This post was edited by Abangk on Dec 28, 2007, 12:25 PM)

gogsard
Koi Lover

Dec 31, 2007, 3:56 PM

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How much it cost for the tile per feet ?

Abangk
Koi Lover

Dec 31, 2007, 4:03 PM

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As it is just for the pond, I used the factory rejected tiles "Class II" which is around RM1.30 - RM1.80 per piece 1'x1'. Cool

Best regards
Abangk

gogsard
Koi Lover

Dec 31, 2007, 4:06 PM

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Hey ! Thats cheap ! Can get the rejected from any tile shops ?

Abangk
Koi Lover

Dec 31, 2007, 4:18 PM

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Really got to hunt for it, sometimes they put up a small ads on the road side and sometimes its sold at the used construction goods stores. The quantity and the colour of the tiles are depends on the availability and our luck too. The normal new tiles is around RM2.30-2.80 per piece for 1'x1'.

Best regards
Abangk

asuntha
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Feb 14, 2008, 7:58 AM

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Hi Abangk,

I'm looking for a waterproofing sealant. Appreciate if you could recommend any and where can I get it from.
I'm living around Semenyih.

Thanks.

Abangk
Koi Lover

Feb 14, 2008, 8:57 AM

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Hi Asuntha

You can get it at any building construction hardware shops around your area and ask for the bathroom waterproofing, there are 2 types, white liquid that they use to call it "susu" and black tar type.

The susu is to be mixed with the cement for plastering of the internal area of the pond, I think its turn into rubberise once dry.

The black tar is to be applied after plastering of the internal area of the pond but the area must be totally dry else it will not properly stick to it.

You can choose either one of the above and finally it has to be covered with fine cement or tiles.

Sifu... please correct me if I am wrong.. TQ

Best regards
Abangk

thiamhwa
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Feb 14, 2008, 10:09 AM

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Hi Asuntha,

You may want to check this out first - www.belle.com.my

I think they should have the water proofing sealant in their product range, Thank you.

etano
Koi Lover

Feb 15, 2008, 11:41 AM

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I also built my own pond personally. I used water-proofing brand named Durabond which can easily be found in any hardware shop. It come with a bag of cement and milky liquid which you mix together (follow the instruction on ratio) and apply with paint brush over the surface 2-3 layers. Then I plaster a thin layer of cement at the last, I didn't need to apply the black coating like abangk. So far so good, already 7 months in used.

Abangk
Koi Lover

Apr 2, 2008, 1:17 PM

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Yap.. Durabond is what the contractor called it "susu" as its milky like...

Best regards
Abangk

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