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Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 12:49 AM

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Click on it... I didnt know an easy way and it wouldn't let me copy and paste.

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194028


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Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 1:05 AM

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i didnt know how to link it. but highlight the link and right click and go for websearch


Koi38
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May 24, 2005, 1:12 AM

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Very nice. You've done well.Wink

Thanks for sharingSmile

Jon

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Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 1:17 AM

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Any suggestion what I can do to clear up my water?

As of now, pond open with direct sunlight, my UV looks weak for it, and I also use Algea Fix

You think what I bought is good enough?

My future thing is to build a underground filtration system next to my savio filter waterfall to make the water more clean.

And thanks for your comments


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Koi38
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May 24, 2005, 1:36 AM

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I'm no expert but looks like you filter is too small. Don't forget you fish will grow and they will produce more waste. But for them to grow healthy you need the proper filter set up. A simple filter set will contain a settlement chamber then a pre filter then your bio filter. I've see a lot of koi ponds without any UV lights and in direct sunlight but the water are crystal clear. Search the forum and you will find a lot answers regarding filters, UV, etc. Plus I think your UV is too weak. You'll need at 30w, IMHOTongue

what are you water parameters = ammonia, nitrite and nitrate???

How big is the pond anyway??? Depth???

rgds,
Jon

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Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 1:46 AM

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15ft x 6ft, 3ft deep, 3000 gallon, i bought the top of the line filter from savio

the end where my scimmer is that side is almost still water


Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 1:48 AM

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which of my koi fish is more delicate, and what are the names of these

that one butterfly koi i have with the red dot on its head with black spots all around... is that one of those koi's with the red round dot on its head?


Koi38
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May 24, 2005, 1:55 AM

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As I said you'll need at least 30w UV, if you afford to but 50w it's even betterSmile My temp pond is 790US gal and I'm using 18w UV works okay but will upgrade it to 50w for my new pond but remember that UV light can't do the job alone, you will still need the right filter set up. Plants some trees to shade your pond. Check your water and increase your filter.Smile

Keep us posted.Smile

good luck,
Jon

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Koi38
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May 24, 2005, 1:59 AM

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I'm still trying to learn JapanesseTongue. The white one with a red spot on the head is what we call a Tancho.

Jon

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Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 1:59 AM

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thanks. jon

this was my first time with pond


Koi38
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May 24, 2005, 2:05 AM

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The problem of having a koi pond is once you start you won't be able to stopLaugh

Enjoy your pond and before I forget "Welcome to the forum"Smile

rgds,
Jon

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koiguyoz
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May 24, 2005, 8:53 AM

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If you can, try looking up 'trickle towers' to aid in the biofiltration of your pond. Basically what we want to do is to increase the area in which the good bacteria to colonise. With the trickle tower, it is possible to do so, given the right amount of water trickling over the media, and amount used. I currently use a trickle tower sized at 10% of the pond volume I have, being 3000 litres divided by 10 equalling 300 litres.

I currently have 30 koi residing in their and the water is clear down to the bottom that is around 3 feet/90cms deep.

A potential way to hid the trickle tower is by a stream bed which can aid the water to reoxygenate as it makes its way back to the pond.

I covered my trickle tower in a post weeks ago, and you'll be able to find it under my profile under 'see user's posts'.


Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 10:58 AM

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so the trickle tower would be on the other end away from my waterfall? or next to it?


Koi38
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May 24, 2005, 11:21 AM

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Sorry about that, I totally forgot about the TT (don't have one yetTongue).

You can have it as the main waterfall or on the other side of your pondSmile

rgds,
Jon

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Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 24, 2005, 11:50 AM

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can i do like an underground filter system... between my pump/uv and existing filter/waterfall, my thing is how will the water go up after the underground filter to my existing filter/waterfall. Like i need another pump or something or i have to reroute everything.

The picture shows what i will do.

Would this work as a "TT"?
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lilhelper
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May 24, 2005, 12:17 PM

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It must have been very exciting doing that and making a custom koi pond straight from your imagination. A pure work of art, that no one can copy. 100% amazing.

good luck on koi keeping
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1 ochiba shigure 13"-14"
1 aka bekko 8"-9"
2 Matsunosuke kohaku.
1 9"-10" Shusui
1 Matsunosuke Showa
1 Matsunosuke Sanke
1 10"-12" Yamabuki ogon


DONE WITH MY POND, look at it in members pond, under MY NEW POND.



koiguyoz
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May 24, 2005, 5:07 PM

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Viet,

I would roughly explain how I plumbed my trickle tower into my pond.

The trickle tower works by the principles of gravity. Water needs to be pumped up from the top of the barrel, and allowed the flow through from the top, down the biomedia and down. Mine is fed via a pump inside the pond, and feeds directly into the trickle tower. I will be attempting to create a settlement tank one day to remove large debris in the primary mechanical stage.

It would be challenging to plumb it underground, as you would need to match the flowrates coming out, and potential risk dry running your water pump.

So, I already saw your pond in another post, and could suggest that you either:
(a) use a submersible pump to pump water into a trickle tower, or
(b) plumb in a t-fitting plumbing connection, with a ball valve controlling the flow to the waterfall filter, and another controlling flow to the trickle tower. As the trickle tower would be large, you could potentially hid it behind a fence, or a bush of tall, yet short tress, maybe bamboo plants? The split run idea would only be good if you had enough flow going to both the waterfall and the trickle tower.
(c)Plumb a second pump from the skimmer, the exact same way for the first pump and then to the trickle tower.
(d) Go with DTTK's advice from the other post :D




lilhelper
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May 24, 2005, 9:40 PM

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I am surely planning on making a TT in the next couple of week in the future, but never really had success with them. I will try on more time.
one thing i need to know is, How long does it take to get a TT working at full force?
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1 ochiba shigure 13"-14"
1 aka bekko 8"-9"
2 Matsunosuke kohaku.
1 9"-10" Shusui
1 Matsunosuke Showa
1 Matsunosuke Sanke
1 10"-12" Yamabuki ogon


DONE WITH MY POND, look at it in members pond, under MY NEW POND.



koiguyoz
Member


May 25, 2005, 11:57 AM

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lilhelper, I think its time we made contact, so I can help you make a successful trickle tower...does that sound okay? PM me to either exchange email contacts or contact me through MSN.

Just as a few pointers, if you still have that same pond you do on your website, divide the water content it holds by 10 to figure out the size of your trickle tower. You can go larger, like I did on one of my other ponds. I personally believe its possible to even hide it given a piped return from the trickle tower.

So, what would we need?
*Submersible pump (probably a fountain pump)...although if you were willing to do it, rip the entire pond out, add in a bottom drain using a shower drain, running it into a garbage bin or similar, connected via PVC piping and using a shower drain again as an inlet point, the garbage bin being sat at the same level as the pond...voila! a settlement chamber!
*Pipe from pump to above ground trickle tower.
*Trickle tower - could use a 60 litre garbage bin, if that was 10% of your pond volume being 600 litres. The tower should preferably be made from flexible plastic as hard plastic breaks when drilled through and has bits tightened into it.
*Enough lava rocks to fill the tower, other things like bioballs I've used with small success.
*Pipe output (instead of a bulkhead) I used a shower drain tightened well. Use teflon tape to seal the threads of the shower drain. You can use an additional pipe from the output to run the water into the pond and hide the TT.
*A crate or two to sit inside the tower. At the bottom create a free area for the water to shower down by using a brick or two.

*You'll need someone to drill a hole for the output pipe with a holesaw (usually used for drilling holes in doors). I found some holesaws matched the diameter of the pipe I used.

That's all. Green water, should dissappear within the week, followed by silly amounts of DOC (dissolved organic compounds) being formed, creating a load of foam on the pond. After that, it should settle and the pond should remain clear.

The other tower you could build include the large strawberry pot towers (which should be just as large as the external TT I think, and the one from Nevada Water Gardens, which are replicated alot on the message board on koivet. These other two are easiest to build, often with the pump at the very bottom in the pond or somewhere around there, pumping water up through the towers and allowing it to collide downwards back to the pond. Not ideal if you don't have prefiltration, unless you have a prefilter foam pad on the fountain pump.


lilhelper
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May 25, 2005, 1:08 PM

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hmm well, can you show me some of your successes. i have a different pond now, just got finished thought. i am not confident enough to do a bottom drain yet. but i will gladly build a TT, i have about a 200 gph pump. so i think i will be able to make a pretty good one.

my email is

thekoiboy@earthlink.net
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1 ochiba shigure 13"-14"
1 aka bekko 8"-9"
2 Matsunosuke kohaku.
1 9"-10" Shusui
1 Matsunosuke Showa
1 Matsunosuke Sanke
1 10"-12" Yamabuki ogon


DONE WITH MY POND, look at it in members pond, under MY NEW POND.



Viet01av6
Koi Lover


May 26, 2005, 5:30 AM

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i dont have a bottom drain either, Texas grounds is like hard clay that you cants break through.


lilhelper
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May 26, 2005, 6:03 AM

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california dirt is very soft. we have no clay, except for when you get very deep into the ground. but that is where i live, it may be different for someone else in a different area. i cannot possibly speak for everyone in california.

well how did you make your TT. email me please
------------------------------------------------------------
1 ochiba shigure 13"-14"
1 aka bekko 8"-9"
2 Matsunosuke kohaku.
1 9"-10" Shusui
1 Matsunosuke Showa
1 Matsunosuke Sanke
1 10"-12" Yamabuki ogon


DONE WITH MY POND, look at it in members pond, under MY NEW POND.



koiguyoz
Member


May 26, 2005, 7:04 PM

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Keep this website on your favourites and come along and view my site at
aquaman.0catch.com in a few weeks from now.

In the meantime, you can keep yourself amused at this post
http://www.koi.com.my/cgi-bin/koiforum/gforum.cgi?post=56480;#56480

...while I create the website with all the ideas etc.


lilhelper
Member


May 26, 2005, 9:40 PM

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thank you, I will check it out.
------------------------------------------------------------
1 ochiba shigure 13"-14"
1 aka bekko 8"-9"
2 Matsunosuke kohaku.
1 9"-10" Shusui
1 Matsunosuke Showa
1 Matsunosuke Sanke
1 10"-12" Yamabuki ogon


DONE WITH MY POND, look at it in members pond, under MY NEW POND.


 
 
 



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