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glassclarinet
Koi Lover

Apr 8, 2007, 3:04 AM

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Well, we've had a "pond" at the corner of my house for a few years... we've put goldfish and stuff in it all the time and recently figured out how to maintain it. Well, I love shubunkin and at the cheap pet store we always go to\ said they were okay to put in with koi. We were like okay and there was this gorgeous 3" platinum silver (i don't know all the terms) that I fell in love with.

Turns out I should have done some research, our pond is only 40 gallons and I can't find anything about koi's size staying with their ponds.

I don't know what I should do. Should I just leave it and when it gets too big take it to an aquarium store, or will it not get too big.

We got a 1.5" koi along with it that's got some random patterns on it, but I haven't quite fallin for that one yet... I do love it though.

Please give me your ideas.
Thanks :)


glassclarinet
Koi Lover

Apr 8, 2007, 3:32 AM

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Here are some pics of my koi.
The smaller one isn't quite metallic, but it's like it has little diamonds all over it, and it's scales are blue tinged.
I'm thinking they're both males, but I'm definately not sure.
The bigger one (my favorite) is platinum silver with a few random spots of orange and greyish/blackish tinged scales.
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glassclarinet
Koi Lover

Apr 9, 2007, 8:30 AM

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I tried to figure out what I have... so this is what I've come up with.

The larger one I think is a gin matsuba with a black spot like a tancho and about three random light orange spots on its right side.

The smaller one I think is a tancho sanke with some blue tinged scales that I think will be gorgeous after it changes and grows some (which won't happen in the pond it's in). I just can't figure out what the "glittery" scales make it. It's like really cool diamonds imbedded in it's skin.

Both are local bred from a cheap pet store.

But yeah, please help :).


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ayranjim
Koi Lover

Apr 10, 2007, 8:34 PM

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Hello, I notice that you have studied koi enough to be aware of some names, so 40 gals???? I would make a bigger pond, that way you can enjoy the hobby/art of koi keeping! I do not feel it does justice to a koi to be put into such a small space, trust me a home koi pond is easy to make and can involve the whole family in something together! If you are not sure about things people here can help you!!
Jim


glassclarinet
Koi Lover

Apr 11, 2007, 8:10 AM

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Thanks :)

Maybe I can convince my parents to let me use the hole from where we dug up a tree. The only problem is that old roots might start growing through the lining...

I'll keep this updated on what I do.


dmast
Koi Lover

Apr 12, 2007, 11:56 AM

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Not sure I understood your question in the first post. I have a 200 gal pond with 7 Shubunkin and 5 Koi, for a total of about 90 inches of fish, for the past 7 years. The Shubunkin appear to have stopped growing at about 5". The Koi are still growing, but do grow much slower than other big pond owners report.

You can keep Koi and Shubunkin in a small pond up to a point. You obviously need the best biological filter you can put in. That in turn will determine how much you can feed them. There will obviously come a point where you simply can't feed them enough for their overall health (bio filter can't keep up). It also probable that at some point your fish just won't be comfortable in such a small pond, especially if it is shallow. Another problem with small ponds is that the temperature will just about exactly follow the air tempurature, which is too much variation for Koi. So you must keep it as shaded as possible, and consider installing a heater (believe it or not) to keep the temp from plunging too far at night.

I do all of this stuff. My ammonia is zero, my fish are happy. I haven't lost a fish to a chemical pond problem yet (in 7 years).

Having said all of that, bigger is always better and easier when it comes to ponds but sometimes the yard just doesn't support a bigger pond, so you can make do with what you have.

Hope this helps.
Don Maston

 
 
 



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