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ALKL
Koi Lover

Jun 10, 2001, 4:59 PM

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I'm a new member having just registered after browsing thru the forum for several hours. I must say this forum is one of the best I've seen on the web.

First, a little background. I live in PJ, Malaysia. I have been keeping three aquariums for the last one and a half year. I am now thinking of setting up a small raised wooden pond which I plan to DIY. The size would be approx 5L x 3W x 2D (feet). The site gets about 4 hours of direct noon to early evening sunlight (which I will reduce with potted and floating plants.

Here's my questions:
1. For the contruction, am I right to assume that fiber tanks are more expensive than lining? Can anyone give an estimate for the size above?
2. Do these tanks come in standard sizes or custom made? I read that they usually come with filter box built in?
3. Where in PJ or KL can I find the fiber tank and linings? Appreciate some contact numbers or address if available.
4. Filtration - since this is not a big pond would my existing external Eheim (which is rated for the volume above) do the job?
5. Is there any filtration unit with built in UV?

Thanks in advance.


Mark
Koi Kichi

Jun 10, 2001, 11:08 PM

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Hi
Sorry for the hicup!!! posted some replies but somehow they didn't show up.

Q1)I must say this forum is one of the best I've seen on the web.
<Mark> Thanks to MKC and Mr Khoo BG(Webmaster) for allowing us to share and care in this forum.

Q2)...The size would be approx 5L x 3W x 2D (feet).
<Mark> If you are serious about the hobby do consider getting at least a 8ft(L) x 5ft(W) x 4ft(depth) tank.

Q3). The site gets about 4 hours of direct noon to early evening sunlight (which I will reduce with potted and floating plants.
<Mark> For a start please have a shade over the pond. Warm water will encourage the growth of algae and especially when the filter system is not ready for used.

Q4). For the contruction, am I right to assume that fiber tanks are more expensive than lining? Can anyone give an estimate for the size above?
<Mark> Pond liners are not popular in this region. This is because hobbyists in this region do not go for large pond. In view of this, buying a fibreglass tank or custom made one is considerable cheap.

Q5). Do these tanks come in standard sizes or custom made? I read that they usually come with filter box built in?
<Mark>Yes they do. Custom made tank costs alittle more. If you are going for custom made tank, you can ask the vendor to incorporate a filter within the custom made tank.

6). Where in PJ or KL can I find the fiber tank and linings? Appreciate some contact numbers or address if available.
<Mark> Pls see Mr Khoo's down post for info.

7). Filtration - since this is not a big pond would my existing external Eheim (which is rated for the volume above) do the job?
<Mark> No way. As a norm, you need a filter surface area of 30% measured against the surface area of your pond. For example, if your pond area is 100 sq ft. you need a filter size area of 30 sq ft. min.(norm). Your Eheim filter will not be able to do the job.

8). Is there any filtration unit with built in UV?
<Mark> There is no need for a UV unit once your filter system is working properly. However if you are not convinced, you may ask your vendor to install one in the custom made tank.

Good luck.

(This post was edited by Mark Richman on Oct 6, 2001, 2:00 PM)


Khoobg
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Jun 11, 2001, 3:33 AM

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Fibreglass tank can be custom made. You may wish to check with Ming Ho Industries (tel:07-7723472) for prices of tank.

I do not think that your Eheim filter will be suitable for koi pond. Koi eat a lot and need to have a proper filter box equiped with good settlement chamber.

You can always add UV light even in custom made filter box. The use of UV light is anyhow not a necessity.



ALKL
Koi Lover

Jun 12, 2001, 7:13 AM

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Thanks to both KhooBG and MarkR for your replies.

Mark, believe me, I wish I could accomodate a bigger pond, but due to current environment I have to settle for something less. If (when!) I move to a bigger premise with a decent garden, then I will let my imagination run wild.

Mr. Khoo, I have contacted MingHo and they have inturn responded with a faxed quote. Thank you very much.

I will heed the advice on the filter unit.

I have one more question, the fiber tanks are usually BLUE, can I paint them BLACK?
What type of paint should I use?

Thanks. The fun have just begun.


Mark
Koi Kichi

Jun 13, 2001, 1:52 AM

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Hi
Since it's custom made, you could get them to produce black colored fibreglass tank.

Good luck.


ALKL
Koi Lover

Jun 13, 2001, 3:21 AM

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That was a rather silly question, since someone in one of the forum mentioned black fiber glass tanks.

That's all from me for the time being, once again thanks.

Over and Out.

ps, the thread on trickle filter is VERY informative and useful for beginers like me.


Khoobg
Webmaster


Jun 13, 2001, 2:23 PM

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Hope you can get good price directly from the manufacturer (MingHo) without going through middleman.

Anyway, happy koi keeping and happy reading all the post in this forum Smile

 
 
 



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