tancho_boy
Koi Lover
Mar 29, 2008, 1:34 AM
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yipey for ts khalid. but only rm 11 free, rest have to pay. well i think u would understand my advise on flushing as many as u could afford. see the thing is not the see-able area of the pond that we're concern about, its rather the pipings and drains. for me, its better to be thorough than having something cropping up once the fishes are in, cus it would be heck of a trouble then if u have problem later to drain. well yours is not big of a volume, i guess its really worth trying. plus one thing i would recommend if u havent finished the pond and to others that might be reading this, if u drain your pond with pumps, normally people use something like a lever or water switch to allow water to enter pond or to drainage (longkang), i suggest pumping the not-usable water to a tangki, so water wont be wasted. u can keep the water, later when u have fish, its free fertilised water AS WELL (nitrates are good for plants)!! problem with this idea tho is the unsightly view of the container/tangki. if u can manage to hide well, then it be good for the conservasion as well.
the idea with either pineapples or vinegar is the acidic nature. i dun really know how that reduces the chemicals from construction, but we'll go with it. but that acidic water MUST be drain, cus kois suit better with ph 7-8/lower alkali. some say slight acidic is good for sumi/black - showas and utsuris, but thats for another discussion. let the acidic water soak up for 2-3 days, what the indons did for me was doing the acidic and draining twice. so thats close to week. patience is the key here fren!!
well i suggest anti-cholrine namely for the bio-filter. u see, once ur confident of pond free from debris, presence of chlorine will kill nitrobactors, so if u add bio-start to your filter (either coral or bio-bhips/rings or mats) itll be quite wasteful. to what extend i dunno. plus itll take about a week for chlorine to evaporate depending on depth of pond and weather. so for your size 2 rm5 big bottle of anti-chlorine is really worth it. if u decide on putting anti-chlorine, ler the whole pump system run overnight so ur sure no chlorine, then add bio-start.
thing about the nitrobactors, it does take awhile for them to really colonise maturely. some say a year. i tell u my hard learned experience. a week after all the draining out process on my pond, we went to sik kedah koi farm and got 30 kois, 20-cm. i was told, rightfully so, to start with local kois. at least IF anything happens, not much waste la- money or tears, becos once u go jap u never turn back!! we have a 16k L pond, inc filters, so thats really overstocking. so within a week my water turn green, next week only 5 of 30 survived!!! then i also learned things about medication after that, but again thats another story. ive learned how to overstock now, u can, but maybe later2 i tell u more secret ok..
i suggest if u really have itchy feet, get a few kois at start. maybe 2-3, to get shit to feed the nitrobactors. other than that please please wait before u buy ok. sincerest of advise. some say u have to wait 2 months from start when u put in bio-start. PATIENCE IS THE KEY HERE FREN!!!!!! HAPPY KOING!!
maybe we'll bump during the weekend at the mid valley koi show....
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. I will give them a month or more, at least, before I put the real expensive ones in. 
Maybe next time, eh... 
, compared with all you seasoned players. I would call it a "compact" pond, meant for front porch of an intermediate unit of a linked house like mine. I posted my specs earlier: Main pond 8' length x 4' wide x 4' deep (concrete with outer pebble wash finishing, with 1.5' raised wall) 
An enthusiast once looked at my pond and told me with the size I have, and the filtration system I use, I should be able to keep 6 full grown ones the most. Hope he's right. (For now I'm just starting up and only have 6 little local kois that make up the "suicide squad" in there). I do keep close watch on the water parameters though. Wish me luck? 
agree with both of you ! My new pond will be ready soon too, after demolishing my old 8'x6'x2.5' pond, new pond will be 15'x9'x4.5', hopefully all my 11 kois' will be happy with their new home..