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choy
Koi Lover

Aug 22, 2006, 10:34 AM

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I am planning to change my filter system to Ultima 2 and I need your help to give me information what are the good and bad side of this system. They will install this filter this coming Saturday and I need to find more information about it. My existing pond is six years old now and I need to update the sytem. Please advise.


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choy
Koi Lover

Oct 31, 2006, 1:31 PM

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My new ultima 11 is finally installed this weekend. We tried to backwash and it is so easy. My concern is my pond is so dirty right now since my old filter was not working for couple months. How can i make it clean with out backwashing for three months. They told me I need to grow bacteria first in the new filter. Please advise..........


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larz1
Koi Kichi


Nov 1, 2006, 2:37 AM

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You will still need to backwash it from time to time to prevent it from plugging off or channeling. Just make sure you only clean your media with pond water. Does your filter have a pressure gauge to tell you when it is becoming plugged up? Some do, others don't. If it does, only backflush as often as you have to.


choy
Koi Lover

Nov 24, 2006, 2:19 PM

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I've been backwashing my filter once a week and finally my pond is already crystal clear. I am so impress to the result since I've been using this new filter for less than a month only :)


choy
Koi Lover

Jun 15, 2007, 11:48 PM

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How is everybody? It's been a while since I got back to the forum. My new filter is working find, the water is clear
and the only thing that I am wondering why all of a sudden I have two big beautiful fish died last night. I did not even
saw them being sick and the next morning they are dead? My son said maybe they do not have enough air. My fond
has a waterfall but not too much water splash and I had one small fountain on the side. Recently it's been hot here
in California and my pond does not have a shade. Please help me solve the mystery.


larz1
Koi Kichi


Jun 16, 2007, 4:13 AM

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Need details. How large is the pond, how many fish of what sizes, and what are your water test results (ph, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate). Clear water can still be toxic, so appearances can be deceiving.
Did you inspect the fish gills to see if they were red, pink, gray? Was there any sign of parasites?
If you haven't already, you need to ask about this in the Koi Health section of the forum to get more replies.


choy
Koi Lover

Jun 18, 2007, 12:55 AM

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I check the water yesterday and this are the result. Nitrate is .25. Amonia is between 1.5 to 2 and the ph is 7.6. I did not inspect the gills of the fish and I still have thirty in my pond. The pond is 5ft deep and 15ft by 10ft long.


larz1
Koi Kichi


Jun 21, 2007, 7:12 PM

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Your ammonia levels are very high, and probably the cause of your fish dying. It is likely that the gills on your fish were burned by the ammonia at those levels, especially with the weather being warm. I suggest that you stop feeding immediately and get more water tests done.
You said your water is clear, so your filter must be cleaning the solids out of the pond, but not cleaning up the invisible wastes like ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate. You need to run more tests and start doing some pretty big water changes. If it is possible you should start running a trickling overflow water change of at least 500-600 gallons per day until the ammonia levels are much lower. According to your pond size you have about 5600 gallons of water so 10% fresh water per day should help, and don't forget to dechlorinate.
We will also need more tests. Especially your kh readings. By this time of year your water is warm enough that your biofilter (assuming it is big enough) should be working well, but with those ammonia levels it is not. Your water may be low on carbonates, which will starve the biological filter and keep it from doing its job. Pictures of your pond and filter would be very helpful in figuring out why the readings are so high.
Along with Kh, we need new ph, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate readings. Test in the morning and the evening. It would also be good to know what those same test results are on your tap water. For the tap water, test it straight from the tap, and also after the water has been dechlorinated and settled in an open container for a few hours. In most cases the ph will be lower from the tap.


choy
Koi Lover

Jun 22, 2007, 7:09 AM

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Thank you so much for your info. I did water change two days ago and i did not test the water. I am going to do it right now as soon as I get home and tomorrow morning also. When you said stop feeding the fish. Do you mean do not feed them yet till the ammonia level will go down? The filter I am using is the Ultimat 11 and if you search my name you will see the picture of our pond. My fish are already seven years old as well as the pond.


larz1
Koi Kichi


Jun 23, 2007, 12:05 PM

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Yes, you should stop feeding completely. Koi can live for weeks without food as they store fat in their tissues for fasting periods. Once your ammonia level has dropped you can resume feeding lightly as your filter slowly recovers and begins converting ammonia and nitrite again. It will take time for the filter to recover, so for the sake of your fish health it is best to take care of the filter first.

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Thank you so much for your info. I did water change two days ago and i did not test the water. I am going to do it right now as soon as I get home and tomorrow morning also. When you said stop feeding the fish. Do you mean do not feed them yet till the ammonia level will go down? The filter I am using is the Ultimat 11 and if you search my name you will see the picture of our pond. My fish are already seven years old as well as the pond.


 
 
 



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