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Tyson
Koi Lover

Jun 14, 2008, 8:40 AM

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I have just joined the forum as I have learned you can learn alot from others.

My pond is just 7 weeks old and thought the flashing was normal, after telling the person I get my koi from he said no , there telling you they are not comfortable to check my water parameters said mainly ammonia so I bought pond care test kit and it looks to be between 0 and 0.25 ppm. watching the fish more and reading on here I decided I needed to measure the nitrite so I bought a strip kit that checks 5 different things including PH.

nitrite is 0
nitrate is 0
ammonia mentioned above
PH ? lowest number on test stip is 5.5 and the color does not change.

Tomorrow I am to pick up a showa 10"and a Platnium But/fly14", I will be taking my Hishusui with me to have him scrap it and test for and bad bugs as mainly it and my ogon do the flashing and some jumping.

My Question is how do you rasie PH ?

A little about my pond It's 10' X 20' depths range from 30" to 12" using a skimmerbox with a 3000 gal/per hour pump to an 18 weer falls

all comments acceptted Gracefully Cool
(1) HiShusui
(1) Shusui
(1) Showa
(1) Yamabuki ogon
(1) Gin Rin Kohaku
(1) Platnium Ogon B-Fly
(1) Gold Matsuba
(2) Black Kawarimono


ouch
Koi Lover

Jun 16, 2008, 2:39 AM

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Re: [Tyson] PH to low ? [In reply to] Can't Post

My first suggestion is to by liquid drop test kits, because test strips are known to be unreliable and not as accurate. So before making any drastic changes, retest the water with a liquid drop test kit, and make sure to get the wide range pH test. You also need to know the KH and GH of your water, because these are what buffer the pH to prevent swings and crashes.

At a pH of 5.5, koi will begin to die within a few days. If this happens you can easily raise the pH by simply adding baking soda to the water. Try adding one cup for every 1000 gallons and check it every two hours until the pH is back to at least 7.0.
The main thing with pH is stability. The nominal pH is around 7.5, but from 7-9 is fine as long as it doesn't move around. For example, if your pond naturally stays at a pH of 8.5 and doesn't shift much, then don't mess with it by trying to lower it to 7.5. This will only be a constant fight to keep your pH there, and will screw up the balance of your pond. Large rapid swings in pH is what kills fish, so when raising the pH be sure to to do it very slowly (about +0.1 pH per hour).



Tyson
Koi Lover

Jun 16, 2008, 6:32 AM

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  You were right I checked the exp date on strips was a year ago went out and bought the type that use drops and got a 7.5 area reading. also the dealer I buy my fish from did a scrap on my Hi shusui and found 1 fluke , Told me that was not enough to worry about, that its normal for the fish to have a few on them as long as I keep evrything else in check the fish can handle that on his own?

If I ever figure out how to post pics I'll post a few of my collection in there home
(1) HiShusui
(1) Shusui
(1) Showa
(1) Yamabuki ogon
(1) Gin Rin Kohaku
(1) Platnium Ogon B-Fly
(1) Gold Matsuba
(2) Black Kawarimono


ouch
Koi Lover

Jun 16, 2008, 6:44 AM

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Your dealer is correct. There are always bad bugs in our ponds, but as long as the fish are not stressed by bad water quality, overcrowding, etc, then their immune system should be able to handle it.

Just like with people, the bad bacteria and viruses are always around us, but as long as our immune systems don't get stressed we don't get sick.

However, even with perfect water quality there can be outbreaks due to new mutations that the kois immune system hasn't adapted to (again, just like with people where you can be perfectly healthy but a new strain of bacteria that we haven't fought off before can still get us sick).

 
 
 



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