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fireworkblast66
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Jun 2, 2005, 10:48 AM

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my pond water is very cloudy i cant see the bottom. it looks almost like the color of wet gray clay. how should i fix this? i was told from someone that it might have lost the bacteria in the pond. iwent out and bought "pond care pond-zyme plus" and i also have "pond care ecofix bacterial pond clarifier" are one of these the solution? i also have "pondcare algea fix"this all came from pets mart if you want to look at it online thanks
Thanks Marshall
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Koi38
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Jun 2, 2005, 3:31 PM

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Hi Marshall, have you check your water parameters? How about your filter? Your UV light, it may need replacing the tube coz they only work properly within 12months.Smile

Do partial water change say 10 % to 20%.

Good luckSmile

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fireworkblast66
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Jun 2, 2005, 9:13 PM

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thanks for the suggestions. what do you mean by this "Your UV light, it may need replacing the tube coz they only work properly within 12months"
Thanks Marshall
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fireworkblast66
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Jun 3, 2005, 4:56 AM

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i just cleaned my pond and filter while i was draining the water i stir the water up and it was very clear and its alreadt cloudy again. i have it runnig fully through my filter right now which i just cleaned the media. i just dont get it HElpShocked
Thanks Marshall
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Koi38
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Jun 3, 2005, 12:46 PM

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How long ago was that? Can you tell us what kind of filter are using? Remember to use pond water to clean your filter.Smile Also the filter will take a while to mature. You just have to be patienceWink

UV light tubes doesn't last forever, from my understanding they only good for 12months, longer than that is waste of electricity.


What kind of pond is it? Fiberglass, concrete or liner?

BTW, what kind of food are you feeding your fish. Some food can cause cloudy water, try to use different food if you can.Smile

rgds,
Jon

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(This post was edited by Koi38 on Jun 3, 2005, 12:49 PM)


kelabukoi
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Jun 3, 2005, 3:31 PM

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Hi

two things you might want to look into:

1. water flow rate. maybe your water turn over rate is too high that it won't let all the sediments to fully settle in the filter's mechanical filtration.
2. mechanical filtration. you can improve this department so that all sediments can be trapped efficiently.

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fireworkblast66
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Jun 4, 2005, 6:31 AM

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I have a cyprio Bioforce uv 1000. my pond is made of that hard plastic from home depot, ill never use that stuff again! lol i use a mix of summer stapple, color enhancing food(very little in mix), and growth. what exactly is the uv tube the glass around it or the bulb(the uv is built into my filter im about to buy a seperate on though...do you recremend a second one not built in the filter?) OH and i dont use pond water to clean it i will start though. how do i make sure the filter works rite? thanks for both of your advice!
Thanks Marshall
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lilhelper
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Jun 4, 2005, 6:44 AM

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ey, how long have you had the uvc filter for. if its more than 12 monthx, your uv light is out. Burnt out. so it needs reaplacing.
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fireworkblast66
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Jun 4, 2005, 7:02 AM

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its only 11 months
Thanks Marshall
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Koi38
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Jun 4, 2005, 1:33 PM

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You can replace the bulb if you want or you could wait another month. Your koi food is okay. You can use your existing filter and but I would add two more filters at least, one is for settlement chamber and the other is prefilter full of brushes then your bioforce. Kelabukoi have mentioned that your turn over rate could be too high, he could be right. If so, try to divert some water by making trickle tower or waterfalls. This will provide more oxygen to your pond. Smile

Do you have any pix???

rgds,
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fireworkblast66
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Jun 6, 2005, 11:15 AM

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i have a diverter made of pvc pipe that me and my dad made. it has 3 outflows into the pond, one to the filter, one to the waterfall, then one just to the pond plain.i also have one to drain the pond, it is a water hose. i am about to upgrade my pond to i think 500 to 700 gallons. it is 220 now. do you have any recremendations for the 2 other filters i need them cheap. also recremendations on the new pond? sorry to ask so much. i really appreciate your help!
Thanks Marshall
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Koi38
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Jun 6, 2005, 1:32 PM

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Hi Marshall, you can use something like storage bins. You can get them either at Lowes or Home depotor plastic recyclers.
Similar to this link http://www.reflexequip.com.au/detail.aspx?Key=10050. Or you can use those big blue drumsSmile

rgds,
Jon

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fireworkblast66
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Jun 7, 2005, 2:50 AM

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thank you. do i need to add any kind of media to it like lava rocks or ...........? do i need it pressurized or anything how should make the outflow and inflow? i really hope im not asking to much would it be nice to have one of those with this fish mate http://www.hemphillsonline.com/pond_filtration_systems/fish_mate.html it is the 78 dollar one.
Thanks Marshall
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Homemade 140Gallon Filter


Koi38
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Jun 7, 2005, 8:52 AM

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I never use pressure filter before so I can't make a comment on themUnsure. I found that DIY works better, IMHOWink The one I showed you before (Storage bin or blue drum) can be use as your filters. The first one is settlement chamber (no media) second one you can put brushes, the third one will be your biofilter and you can use either bio balls or Japanesse Matt.Smile Just add some air stones in biofilter coz they do need lots of airSmile

rgds,
Jon

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fireworkblast66
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Jun 7, 2005, 1:14 PM

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 where can i buy these brushes and how should i attach them .what is the DIY link. also what is japanesse matt? thanks again! marshall


Koi38
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Jun 7, 2005, 5:52 PM

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Marshall, You should be able to get these brushes and jap matt from wherever you got your other filter from. There might be a Koi Club in your area, aks around. Browse this link. All your questions will be answer.

http://www.koicymru.co.uk/construct.htm


rgds,
Jon

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fireworkblast66
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Jun 8, 2005, 4:09 AM

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thank you so much!if i cant find a koi place or club here in winston-salem, NC i know charleston, SC has a koi club and stores thanks again! marshall

 
 
 



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