viper99
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May 13, 2008, 5:02 PM
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big problem: koi curve spine
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dear sifu, pls help...... here is the case:
I ve kohaku ginrin size 45 cm very nice patern and color. I ve it for about 1.5 month, about one month ago I ve problem with fish flashing including this fish. So salted the pond to 0.5% and use dimillin 20 g for 18 ton of water all water parameter is perfect, repeat the dosage after 4 days with same dosage. The fish still flashing so after 4 days without water change I ve tried masoten with the dosage of 7 gr for 18 ton of water. I noticed the masoten is already become like a gel instead of powder (it might already absorb the water from air due to the bottle is not tightly closed), later I found out from internet that if masoten already convert to gel its shouldnt be used becouse it will be very poisoned for the fish, too bad I already used it. Two weeks later after I used masoten I found one of the kohaku as mentioned above have a curve body and swim side ways. Its still can swim to the top of the pond only it has problem to swim straight and balanced his body in the water. I dont know if this is caused by dimillin or masoten, becouse if it happened due to this medicined why its not happen right away or the next day after I put the medication? or its only happen slowly?
Other fish even the smaller one like 10 cm size its all perfectly fine and none has developed curve spine like this one.
I ve no electrical or pump in the pond only in the filter. The other possibility is it has broke his spine (back bone), but the fish never jump out or there is no sharp edge in my pond.
I ve search information from internet and found other possibilities other that all above:
1. vitamin C deficiency
2. Tuberculosis bacteria
3. swim blader desease
I ve netted the fish and put in the aquarium, but once it reached aquarium its getting worse, now the fish is hardly moving its always lying on one side on the bottom of aquarium, if I tried to flip over the fish its always come back to that side. Its now worse than it was in the pond may be due to when I netted the fish its cause the broken spine even worse.
So far the fish still look healthy , no sign of redness or rapid breathing. The colour and scales of the fish also look healthy. Only most of the time its lying on the bottom. Its already been 2 days since I moved to the aquarium the fish look healthy but have not eat anything.
How can you tell if its has broken bone not just simply curve body? I m thinking to give an antibiotic food or jab incase of TB and try using two solid metal put it between the body of the fish and to position the fish straight and balanced on the bottom of the aquarium for minimum 2 weeks to see if it cure the broken bone (like if we try to cure our broken arm).
any idea pls help anyone, since I really like this fish so I tried my best to save it.
thanks.
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(This post was edited by viper99 on May 13, 2008, 5:28 PM)
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. dont know how to answer u this...
.. also, i just say may b due to over dose (mix of demilin and mesoten) , shud have clear one medicatio, rest the koi then apply the next medication.. just my opinion, i might b wrong..
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