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Tan Lee King
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Aug 25, 2005, 5:14 PM

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Hi! Everyone.

Would you look at the ingredients when you buy a Koi Food?

Now, I couldn't find the ingredients table on the packet of SAKAI Food.

Anyone have any idea what ingredients SAKAI food have? Or Where to find this piece of info?

Thanks.
Tan Lee King - Cheers.


Tan Lee King
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Aug 29, 2005, 11:26 PM

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Hi, does anyone know the ingredient content Sakai pellets have?
once heard the sodium content is high. But where to get this piece of info?

Tan Lee King - hoping there is a response.


koi@kit
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Sep 8, 2005, 10:09 AM

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hi Tan,Cool

i m from brunei. i notice we here also selling SAkAi koi food without the ingredient content.. but ours here is 5kg packing at $38. what i see in the net at JK Koi selling 4kg packing at $80.. so which SaKai koi food are u refering??Crazy


Tan Lee King
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Sep 11, 2005, 3:17 AM

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Hi, Koi@kit:
I'm referring to the wheatgerms as well as the color enhancer. Both packings do not have ingredient contents. Both packed at 4Kg per pack.
Why is there a difference in weight per pack?Crazy Is there a imitation in the market?Shocked

Tan Lee King -Unimpressed


koi@kit
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Sep 11, 2005, 3:34 PM

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Hi Tan,

yah i was surprise as well.. i wonder where they ordered from. the indian care taker told me it's from taiwan coz he said the labelling is in chineseCrazy... I think it's imitation.. but from where?? strangely the front and back of the packing is the same as the 4kg in the net, without the nutrition value as well..

will inform u if i can find the answer..Wink


Tan Lee King
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Sep 12, 2005, 12:23 AM

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Ok Set.
I'm looking forward to your news.

Tan Lee King = Shocked


larz1
Koi Kichi


Sep 12, 2005, 1:22 AM

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The only ingredients listings I can find are Wheatgerm, Spirulina, Zeaxanthin (in the color enhancing blends), and "proprietoay Hikari Germ". "Proprietary" = top secretMadMad so even if I knew (and I don'tTongue) I couldn't tell you, because then I'd have to kill youShocked to keep it a secretUnsure.
Just as Barley Balls (or straw for that matter) contain an enzyme which promotes good bacteria growth in your biofilter, Hikari Germ is apparetly a grain blend which is a digestive bacterial enzyme enhancer. Proper bacteria is essential to any digestive system (including yours and mine) so I am sure it would be even more important for a fish without a stomachTongue.
Physicians and Veterinarians refer to these bacteria (which live in our saliva and our stomachsCrazy) as "Flora".


koi@kit
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Sep 12, 2005, 10:12 AM

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Hi larz1,

"proprietoay Hikari Germ". are u sure this is labelled in 'SAKAI KOI FOOD'?? sounds like in HIKARI more than in sakai..Wink


larz1
Koi Kichi


Sep 12, 2005, 11:05 AM

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The one I refer to is "Sakai Hikari" (marketed as Saki & Sakai). Which is sold in 2 & 15 kg pgs, in 4 blends. Basic, Growth, Colour, and Multi-Season. This isn't the website where I originally got my info, but if you scroll half way down the page it is there. I assumed it was the same one you were discussing.
http://www.koicarp.org.uk/koi_foods.htm
I understand there is also a Hiroshima Sakai brand, but I have no specific info on it.


koi@kit
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Sep 12, 2005, 2:42 PM

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Hi larz1,

i think they spell it wrongly...Wink.. from the packing it should be saki not sakai... But thanks anyway for your information..Smile

how about you Tan?? u refer to saki or sakai??Wink


Tan Lee King
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Sep 12, 2005, 10:41 PM

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Hi! Mr. Larzl, Thank you very much for your effort in directing us to the link notwithstanding we are refering to SAKAI Food manufactured by SAKAI Farm (Co).

I'm surprised that Saki Hikari has become Sakai Hikari. Perhaps there is a overlooking in translating it from Japanese to English. However, I'm able to judge it from the packing that the packing shown in the link is Saki, NOT Sakai. To the best of my understanding, there is a ingredient contents in Saki food.

Packing for Sakai food is a silverish shining color embolded with words "SAKAI BLEND HIGH QUALITY NISHIKIKOI FOOD" with the fishfarm name "Sakai Fish Farm (Co)" plus a robus Logo next to it. The only thing lacking in the packing is the ingredient.

Could it be a TRADE SECRET?

Tan Lee King - Cheers.


Tan Lee King
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Sep 12, 2005, 10:43 PM

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Hi larz1,

i think they spell it wrongly...Wink.. from the packing it should be saki not sakai... But thanks anyway for your information..Smile

how about you Tan?? u refer to saki or sakai??Wink
Hi! Koi@kit:
I of course refer to "SAKAI" NOT "Saki".

Tan Lee King - Cheers.


larz1
Koi Kichi


Sep 12, 2005, 11:28 PM

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"Trade Secret" is probably it.
I finally found the original link I got my information from.
http://www.aqualifeuk.com/SUBcategory.php?categoryKey=2205&side=koi&subCategoryKey=2214&subCategoryName=Hikari%20Sakai
It only shows "Sakai Hikari" in the product description and it was only when I found the link I posted previously that I saw the word "Saki". (now THAT would make an unusual ingredient wouldn't itCrazyTongue)
Could it be that Hikari markets with different labeling in different parts of the world?
I think I found the one you refer to, but as you say, no information on ingredients. Is this it?
http://www.sakai-ff.com/index_e.htm


Tan Lee King
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Sep 13, 2005, 12:08 AM

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Mr. Larzl!
Yes, you have directed me to the right link on Sakai Food. Thanks a lot.
Unfortunately, still No ingredient content. So disappointed.

Tan Lee King - Cheers.

 
 
 



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