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koifishgirl
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Nov 16, 2004, 1:13 AM

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Hi all I just visted a koi farm where the man was feeding catfish food to his koi. Not to long ago I went to a mans house and he was feeding catfish food and his goldfish had developed Dropsy from feeding the catfish food and their bellies were blown up like a ballon I had been feeding my koi a little catfish food and was told when I went to the Atlanta Koi Show this past Semptember not to feed catfish food as this would hurt my koi and destroy the kidneys. I dont know how long it takes for the damage to be done by catfish food, but this guy has been feeding for a couple of years and his koi look Ok. Has anyone got any info on catfish food and what it does to koi? And what is in the contents of catfish food that hurt koi and not catfishCrazy Also is there a type of catfish food that is ok to feed to koi?
Judy


ucpondguy
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Nov 16, 2004, 2:22 AM

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I would not feed catfish food to koi. Everywhere that I have read discourage this. As a koi lover, we all put in so much in the hobby, spending $$$ for the best filtration, best liner, best quality koi etc. Why skimp on the food that would increase chances of getting them sick?


eastside
Koi Lover

Nov 24, 2004, 3:28 AM

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Every body is saying this and that but I feed my koi what ever I want and they never get sick like other people said it would.


mike c
Koi Kichi


Nov 24, 2004, 8:32 PM

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eastside,

you also wont get sick right away when u smoke. when u drink a bottle of alcoholic bev a day. etc. etc.

anyway, THEY SAY feeding this and that shortens their life... and wont kill them/make them sick instantly



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eastside
Koi Lover

Nov 25, 2004, 1:27 AM

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I understand what you are saying but humans are humans smoking is smoking that has nothing to do with catfish food and kois. In the wild koi have been eating everything even their own waste, bugs, flies, even grass that can get them sick and they still get bigger and healthier than ours which eats pellets every day.


mike c
Koi Kichi


Nov 25, 2004, 4:17 AM

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what they eat in the wild is actually 10 times healthier than the koi pellets we feed them.

you see, the catfish food's MAIN purpose is to grow and fatten the catfish as fast as fishly possible,
they dont care how long the catfish lives, because they get eaten by humans even before we find out that they have some sort of organ disease.

catfish food contains a lot of things not good for fish ... like ... hmm ... fat?



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eastside
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Nov 25, 2004, 11:04 AM

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right I knew that My point was just they could eat catfish food. no sweatSmile


koifishgirl
Koi Kichi


Nov 26, 2004, 12:21 PM

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Good point! I think I will go by this guys house and take some pics and post for everyone to see what I am talking about. You wont believe what you see. It is just plain hard to see the goldfish in this shape and he said some of them are dieing off so I am sure if he knew what catfish food done to them he would have not feed. You put a lot of time into the fish and you dont want your pets unhealthy so if I can make anything clear this is one subject that needs talked about. After I get some pics of the fish everyone can make a choice for themselfs what to feed and what not to feed. I just think this will be and eye opener for all to see as to what catfishfood does the the kidneys of fish.
Judy


divein
Koi Lover


Nov 28, 2004, 5:36 AM

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no no no do not risk it!


koineedtoknower
Koi Lover

Jan 16, 2005, 10:41 AM

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I know it an old post but i had to. Instead of catfish food for kois, I have a catfish with my kois and he loves koi food.

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koifishgirl
Koi Kichi


Jan 20, 2005, 2:04 AM

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To he honest with you the koi food is more than lilely better for the catfish in the longrun than catfish food as this is used to fatten for the kill.Frown And I dont like killing fish but I sure like eaten catfish.Sly
Judy


Fishbone
Koi Lover


Apr 16, 2005, 12:45 PM

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I'm no expert but what I've read is to stay away from foods that list "corn" as one of the main ingredients. I would guess that catfish food is made mostly from corn. Is it true that any corn ingredients are bad for koi?
USA - Koi Newbie - 2 years now


Fishbone
Koi Lover


Apr 16, 2005, 12:51 PM

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here's an ingredient list for this bag of catfish food ... lots of corn and other stuff that doesn't sound good such as limestone, animal by products meal ...oh doesnt that one sound yummy LOL :)


Tops FLOATING Catfish Food Ingredients: Dehulled soybean meal, wheat middlings, ground yellow corn, fish meal, animal by-products meal, corn gluten feed, cottonseed meal, salt, ground limestone, dicalcium phosphate, choline chloride, calcium pantothenate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, riboflavin supplement, niacin, folic acid, thiamine, vitamin B-12 supplement, vitamin-A supplement, vitamin-E supplement, ascorbic acid, d-activated animal sterol) vitamin D-3), and traces of ethylenediamine dihydriodide, iron carbonate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, zinc oxide and cobalt carbonate.
USA - Koi Newbie - 2 years now

(This post was edited by Fishbone on Apr 16, 2005, 12:51 PM)


koifishgirl
Koi Kichi


Apr 18, 2005, 12:05 PM

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I have been told different things from different breeder and I still think it would be best to stay away from catfish food. Yes it is true that the corn meal is not good for them, why I dont know but look at the % of protein in the catfish food and see what it is and see what % of veggies are in the food. Compare it with a good brand of koi food and see what the difference is. If the food is close I dont see why you cant use this to feed as long as it is close. Be carefull with this as I have had a chance to see goldfish that are being feed catfish food and they all have become bloated and look to have developed kidney failure. That is why I plan on sticking to a good koi food. I have put to much money into my koi and their health to take a chance.
Judy

 
 
 



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