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koi@kit
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Apr 15, 2006, 10:53 AM

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Hi guys..

anyone who change water without realise that our tap water contain very high chlorine level??? most of u must have use anti chlorine solution or 'crystal'... any ideas or skills u guys wud like to share? Sly

cyrus_281
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Apr 15, 2006, 2:23 PM

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Hi there Kit,

I got this koi keeping book called "Nishikigoi Jewels of the Orient" which states that it is safe to change up to a maximum capacity of 30% without the aid of anti chlorine. This said, I put the theory to the test and the water tested positive for harmful chlorine level using Sera chlorine tester. I guess it all depends on the continent and country as they have different chlorine levels in the mains. Right now, I am flowing water straight from the tap at a slow rate into my pond without using anti-chlorine solution and have tested the water for chlorine for 8 days now, results came out negative for chlorine. I suppose at that rate the chlorine dilutes in the water and is unable to amount to a harmful level. Im going to test for another 10 days and check the result, hopefully it will work out fine then I wouldn't have to buy more AquaPlus solution.

PS* Any ideas on how to remove chlorine without using anti-chlorine solution and carbon filter will be much appreciated*

Koi38
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Apr 15, 2006, 2:41 PM

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Hi Kit,

I don't use dechlorinator if I do up 20% water change. I use water sprinkler type fitting to my hose at low pressure when I add water to my pond. I just set the tap timer coz it does take a while specially if you're adding 20% water Crazy

to date no chlorine is detected. The only time I used dechlorinator was when I filled up my new pond Wink

rgds,
Jon

"DuKu Friendly"
_____________________________________
"No one is ever too old to know better"

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sunshinekoi
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Apr 15, 2006, 10:15 PM

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Kit,
slow flow rate from tap and high oxygen content from air pump would have evaporate chlorine away. Laugh

Yours no problem lah, so much oxygen!

Sunshine

s_clan
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Apr 16, 2006, 11:28 AM

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Cifu Kit...

Well, about the dechlorinizer....both me and my neighbour agree that it is not really neccessary.....

She just pours in the tap water.....and I being a bit more careful.....fills buckets the day before and then pump them in the next day....

less chemicals is better she says...

With regards, Jarvis

I LOVE THE COLOUR ORANGE
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1 Kohaku (male)
1 Doitsu Kohaku (female)
1 Taisho Sanke (male)
1 Asagi
1 Kujaku
1 Sakura Ogon
1 Tancho Sanke
1 Karasugoi
1 Ki Matsuba
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koi@kit
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Apr 17, 2006, 12:43 PM

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hi cyrus_281...

carbon filter cannot guratee u 100% remove chlorine.. tks for ur feedback.. Sly

koi@kit
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Apr 17, 2006, 12:47 PM

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master cifu..

tks for ur feedback... wats ur chlorine reading from main supply? may be its low..

my place can go as high as 4ppm.. very near to water treatment plant.. Sly

koi@kit
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Apr 17, 2006, 12:51 PM

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pengyiew...

sorry soo late reply very busy with onn koi koi very2 soon... anyway.. tks for ue feedback.. i hope the areation is strong enough to evaporate the chlorine b4 it goes into the koi's gills.. Crazy

koi@kit
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Apr 17, 2006, 12:56 PM

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cifu s_clan..

i agree with 'less chemical is better' hehehehehh... yes using aging water will make sure theres no chlorine .... many tks..

TO ALL...
i got carbon filter to cut off chlorine (& others) from entering my pond, i used aging water with lots of areation... still got traces of chlorine.. after using sodium thiosulphate crystal (anti chlorine crystals) then my chlorine level shows negative.. will post pictures when i got the time... at the mean time... any comment??? Wink

s_clan
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Apr 17, 2006, 2:09 PM

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Cifu Kit....

So carbon will decrease chlorine??? Cause I use a bag of animal carcoal carbon in my drum filter...

With regards, Jarvis

I LOVE THE COLOUR ORANGE
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1 Kohaku (male)
1 Doitsu Kohaku (female)
1 Taisho Sanke (male)
1 Asagi
1 Kujaku
1 Sakura Ogon
1 Tancho Sanke
1 Karasugoi
1 Ki Matsuba
----------------------------------------------------------

sunshinekoi
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Apr 17, 2006, 9:07 PM

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Kit,
are you using the big blue tank to keep the aging water? If no, might be good to use it as a temporary storage tank for water prior to fill into your pond, then aerate it everyday. I could be thinking unnecessarily. Crazy

I dont trust the tap water at all. Imagine you fill the blue bucket with tapwater and all you can see is brown water, is that good water?? Pirate

yuck!

take care yah! maybe give you a visit some time. Happy Onn Koi Koi!

Sunshine.

koi@kit
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Apr 18, 2006, 10:26 AM

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cifu s_clan..

theoritically carbon will absorb most stuff including chlorine... but 'activated' carbon need to be changed as after sometime they clog...

koi@kit
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Apr 18, 2006, 10:29 AM

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sunshine..

i dont trust tap water myself... yes the blum drum is for me to keep aging water..

Koi38
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Apr 18, 2006, 6:19 PM

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Hi Kit,

I was told by a friend that our main supply is around 1ppm or less Wink

. I've never actually tested it my self but the mate of mine used to work from water supply company Shocked

.

rgds,
Jon

"DuKu Friendly"
_____________________________________
"No one is ever too old to know better"

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koi@kit
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Apr 18, 2006, 8:13 PM

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master cifu..

tks for the info.. soo brunei water supply is 4x more 'anti koi' than aussie water hhehehhehehehehhheheeheheh

sunshinekoi
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Apr 18, 2006, 10:01 PM

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Oooooohhhhhhh! Cifu kit has some secret recipes even on tap water care too!! NO wonder never finding knowing enough from one person!! Laugh

SunshineKoi

s_clan
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Apr 19, 2006, 10:14 AM

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Cifu Kit...

In Reply To

cifu s_clan..

theoritically carbon will absorb most stuff including chlorine... but 'activated' carbon need to be changed as after sometime they clog...

you mean stuff get stuck to them in the filter? Crazy

and how often a change of carbon?

With regards, Jarvis

I LOVE THE COLOUR ORANGE
----------------------------------------------------------
1 Kohaku (male)
1 Doitsu Kohaku (female)
1 Taisho Sanke (male)
1 Asagi
1 Kujaku
1 Sakura Ogon
1 Tancho Sanke
1 Karasugoi
1 Ki Matsuba
----------------------------------------------------------

koi@kit
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Apr 19, 2006, 8:50 PM

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yoo pengyiew sunshine..

no secret receipe lah.. just find a lot of stuffs to share with all.. Wink

koi@kit
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Apr 19, 2006, 8:58 PM

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cifu s_clan..

i mean stuff get stuck in the carbon.. carbon got tiny pore.. when to change depends on how much waste is on them.. i heard they can be re activate.. by washing them and heat them at certain temp.. but i m not sure.. better change a new one to be on the save side..

s_clan
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Apr 20, 2006, 12:28 PM

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Cifu Kit....

I bought a whole sac and used only half of it for now....I could change it in a couple of weeks when I do the spring pond clearing.... Wink

With regards, Jarvis

I LOVE THE COLOUR ORANGE
----------------------------------------------------------
1 Kohaku (male)
1 Doitsu Kohaku (female)
1 Taisho Sanke (male)
1 Asagi
1 Kujaku
1 Sakura Ogon
1 Tancho Sanke
1 Karasugoi
1 Ki Matsuba
----------------------------------------------------------

koi@kit
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Apr 21, 2006, 2:14 PM

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cifu s_clan..

i read from some articles abt carbon, saying dat u actually re-activate the carbon.. 1st u need to wash then to remove dust n dirth.. then put them to dry in an oven (not sure the temperature, may be 100'c).. then carbon can be reused.. but u not confident better change to a new sets of carbon..

regards
kit

s_clan
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Apr 23, 2006, 1:01 PM

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Cifu Kit....

Ok...thank you.....I knew that you do sort of bake them to reactivate them... Wink

I read before somewhere.....

But on the safer side.....should get new ones.....like $5 for a 2kg bag here.... Smile

koi@kit
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Apr 23, 2006, 8:21 PM

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cifu s_clan..

$5 per 2kg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! very cheap,.... are u sure it is 'activated carbon'??

s_clan
Koi Addict

Apr 24, 2006, 12:00 PM

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Cifu Kit....

Well....I kinda know the seller....so you know... Laugh

less $$$

With regards, Jarvis

I LOVE THE COLOUR ORANGE
----------------------------------------------------------
1 Kohaku (male)
1 Doitsu Kohaku (female)
1 Taisho Sanke (male)
1 Asagi
1 Kujaku
1 Sakura Ogon
1 Tancho Sanke
1 Karasugoi
1 Ki Matsuba
----------------------------------------------------------

zoul
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May 24, 2006, 4:33 AM

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Dear koi@kit

Alot depends on what you local water authority puts in the water supply. I contact mine every 2 months just to check what nasties they stick in.

They are likely to change the quality at the drop of a hat. So it's best to keep in check with them, they should give you a rundown of all the peramitors of your tap water if you aske them..

If you don't ask you'll never know... As someone once said....

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