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koi@kit
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Nov 2, 2006, 10:29 AM

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Hi All..

just wanna share the pictures of my new male pond of 6 ton water.. running fully on bacteria house / Bakki shower only..
comment welcome.. 5 week oredi.. 12 koi.. no sign of green water yet.. 4feet deep.. Wink

pond 5.. measured 8ft long, 6 ft wide and 4ft 3ins of water level.

check out the carpet grass grow in the pump chamber.
the hole is feed from 6in BD, the stand pipe for flushing.

the 1 1/2 white pipe feed from pump chamber
to 40kg BH stack in 6 tray..

cheers

koi@kit
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Nov 2, 2006, 10:44 AM

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mikoi
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Nov 3, 2006, 7:52 AM

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I'm jealous sifu koikit.

what kind of pump are you using? I want to get one of those.
can you please tell me the wattage/ brand/ etc about your pump.
thank you, MASTAAAAH!!!

Koi38
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Nov 3, 2006, 1:19 PM

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Sai Lo Kit,

No wonder you've been quite for a while Mad

Can we have some pics of POND 1 to 4 Wink

BTW, great show.............and someone is looking for those bread trays....they want them back Laugh

rgds,
Jon

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kemeer
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Nov 3, 2006, 2:58 PM

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Guys,

Just came back from our cifus pond to see his setup. Clearly this is the most simple and yet most effective pond & filter setup i've came across. Water was crystal clear and free of impurities. Fishes were happily gliding through the water.

Am thinking of building something similar to this once i can find the space.... heheh

Great show cifu...

Regards Laugh

koi@kit
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Nov 4, 2006, 8:10 AM

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Hi Mikoi,

I'm jealous sifu koikit.
Blush

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what kind of pump are you using? I want to get one of those.
can you please tell me the wattage/ brand/ etc about your pump.
Resun brand, 250 watts, 18000 lit/hr.. check out at http://www.tewakoi.com/Products4.htm Laugh

thank you, MASTAAAAH!!!
no problem cifu mikoi... anytime Wink

rgds
kit

koi@kit
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Nov 4, 2006, 8:13 AM

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Hi tailo Jon..

pond 1 and 3 is my quarantine pond Smile

.. only 1.5 ton, 3 ft deep.. dont have pond 4 coz in chinese '4' means 'dead' dats bad luck for koi keeping.. Frown

as for pond 2 i keep my super red arowana.. Wink

yah i got several 'lawyer' letter asking for the return of the bread tray.. BUT.... they are mine!!! Sly

....

more pictures soon..

sailo
kit

koi@kit
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Nov 4, 2006, 8:15 AM

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cifu kemeer..

i m glad u like my setup Blush

... the water looks crystal clear but not 100% mature yet Crazy

.. anyway, its overcrowded at the moment with 12koi Unsure

hope to get some member whose intrested to keep them.. Smile

rgds
kit

thomasysl
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Nov 26, 2006, 12:00 AM

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There shouldnt be any problem with 12 kois, since you are running full bakki shower. Just check the standard water parameter, it should be fine. I am too running bakki shower in addition of a small underground filter. Rogermoo has 60+ in a 10 ton ponds with 100kg bakki.

koi@kit
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Nov 27, 2006, 7:56 AM

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Hi Thomas..

thank u for ur input.. may i know how much BH do u put in ur system? how many koi do u have? wats the tonnage of ur water? do u use submerged or shower bh?

many thanks
kit

thomasysl
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Nov 28, 2006, 1:10 AM

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Hi Kit

No problem. My pond is about 28ton, currently 30kois averaging 60cm using about 130kg BHM in 2 set of bakki shower using custom made transparent acrylic container(4 tier and 3 tier).

brandon
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Dec 5, 2006, 11:22 PM

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hi kit,

i noticed u posted the pic of ur water pump made in china.I'm considering to buy it.What I wanna know is that how durable this pump is.Please let me know.How long have u been using this pump?isnt RESUN pump troublesome?
Best regards,

brandon

koi@kit
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Dec 6, 2006, 9:49 AM

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Hi brandon,

welcome to Brunei forum..

abt the pump, i dont know how long it can last, i only used them for a few month only.. so far so good..
u can view more details at www.tewakoi.com ...

rgds
kit

thomasysl
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Dec 6, 2006, 7:33 PM

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Hi Koi@kit

Just to share pic of my bakki shower. 3-tier shower has been running for 9 mths, 4-tier shower has been running for 2 mths.

brandon
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Dec 6, 2006, 8:04 PM

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hi kit,

Thanks 4 the warm welcome.Wowwwww...i'm amazed with ur water clarity.
1. Do u use only bacteria house for the filter media?
2. Do u have a settlement chamber or something else before the water enters the bakki shower? or vortex?
3. Do u also use resun water pump 4 this pond?
4. what is the turnover rate for BS?
5. what's ur amount of BH ? 10 kg/ ton water?

too many questions Angelic

???sorry because i'm quite new to koi keeping.and i'm planning to build another koi pond that use only BH .btw, where's the fish ?i saw nothing ,only the water Tongue

.thx..
Best regards,

brandon

thomasysl
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Dec 6, 2006, 10:58 PM

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Hi Brandon

Are you asking kit or me? Tongue

ANyway to answer some of your Qs.

1. Do u use only bacteria house for the filter media?
The bakki shower is an addition to my current underground filter, which is too small for the pond and stocking.

2. Do u have a settlement chamber or something else before the water enters the bakki shower? or vortex?
For my case, no, as I have my underground filter with a vortex. If you are going to build a only shower system, it is a good idea to build a large mechanical settlement channel or vortex.

3. Do u also use resun water pump 4 this pond?
No, I am using Tsurumi pump.

4. what is the turnover rate for BS?
Each pump is about 13ton/hr based on the pump spec. With all the elbows and height, it might be around 10ton/hr each.

5. what's ur amount of BH ? 10 kg/ ton water?
10kg/ton??? Shocked

Thats way too expensive for me! Tongue

I am using about 3-4kg/ton (120kg for 28ton pond).

As for your last Q, my kois are swimming on the other side. Tongue

(This post was edited by thomasysl on Dec 6, 2006, 11:04 PM)

koi@kit
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Dec 7, 2006, 9:32 AM

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Hi Thomas..

msny thanks for sharing the pictures.. ur set up look very good. i like it.. is the 'tier' made of glass or plastic? how u glue them 2gether?

actually i got a few more question, just brandon oredi asked and i got the answers. thank you very much..
kind to share the size and breed of ur koi? look good. how deep is ur pond?

rgds
kit

koi@kit
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Dec 7, 2006, 9:37 AM

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hi brandon..

1. Do u use only bacteria house for the filter media?
yes i only use bacteria house, i used to put mat on the top layer, but it get clog easily and water not so good.
2. Do u have a settlement chamber or something else before the water enters the bakki shower? or vortex?
i dont call it a settlement chamber, its more like a pump chamber coz i use submerged pump.
3. Do u also use resun water pump 4 this pond?
yes, Resun 18000lit/hr.
4. what is the turnover rate for BS?
water is ard 6 tons, pump is 18000lit/hr, so my turn over rate is 3 time..
5. what's ur amount of BH ? 10 kg/ ton water?
currently i have 40kg inside the shower, my theory is 10kg/ton, but i usually add on slowly..

rgds
kit

brandon
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Dec 7, 2006, 10:10 AM

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hi kit n thomas,

I'm terribly sorry .my questions did confuse u ,guys. I didnt notice the poster name on the above.actually i was asking thomas.I'm asking 4 ur opinion.anyone may answer.just suppose i'm gonna build a pond with only vortex and BS filter , will the water quality be like thomas'?

Thomas, How old is ur pond?I dont see the algae growing on the pond wall at all.THX so much ,guys
Best regards,

brandon

koi@kit
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Dec 7, 2006, 10:19 AM

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Hi brandon..

no problem at all.. feel free to ask, dats wat the forum is for.. teach, advice n learn...

rgds

thomasysl
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Dec 7, 2006, 8:20 PM

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Hi Kit

Thanks.

is the 'tier' made of glass or plastic? how u glue them 2gether?
It is made of plastic, 5mm thick acrylic glue together. Have a look at the pic.
http://www.koi.com.my/cgi-bin/koiforum/gforum.cgi?post=81269;search_string=bakki;#81269

The depth of the pond, is about 5 1/2 ft, about 1.8m.

thomasysl
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Dec 7, 2006, 8:36 PM

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Hi Brandon

How old is ur pond?I dont see the algae growing on the pond wall at all.
My pond is about 2 1/2 yrs old. It used to be filled with algae all over the wall and lots of string algae and my filter is always clogged by that. About a few months ago, before setting up my shower, all my kois are hit by parasite, due to addition of new fish. So salt of 0.3% was the one that killed all the algae in a few days, and after the kois have recovered, I have lost at elast 80% of the algae on the wall. Since then I have build a shade to cover 90% of the pond and there is no more algae Tongue

. Since I started using bakki shower with CWIC - Constant Water Inflow Change (more info is here http://www.koivet.com/html/articles/articles_details.php?article_id=282&name=Newest%20Articles), my pond has always been that clear, so I am not sure is it due to the bakki or CWIC. I did use PP (2ppm) once every 3-4 months to clear the organic when I wash my underground filter.

koi@kit
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Dec 9, 2006, 8:20 AM

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Hi Thomas..

Thank you very much for the info... Smile

i notice not much holes drilled on the wall of the plastic, do ur BH smells? coz i think theres not much air exchange in them.. have u ever take them out n smell them? Shocked

I did use PP (2ppm) once every 3-4 months to clear the organic when I wash my underground filter.
i think the PP is the one killing ur algae.. i might b wrong Crazy

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i tot when u wash ur underground filter u oredi clear the organic waste? i m confuse Crazy

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can PP remove smells from water since they clear organic waste? Shocked

rgds
kit

thomasysl
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Dec 9, 2006, 11:56 PM

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Hi Koi@kit

Well, I guess as long there is hole, there will be air. Tongue

Yes there do smell, but more like algae smell. BUt inside the container, it smell like ammonia, I guess the shower system is also gaussing off ammonia.

i think the PP is the one killing ur algae..
I only start using PP, after the salt and the building of the shade. So I doubt it. Wink

tot when u wash ur underground filter u oredi clear the organic waste? i m confuse..
I am talking of the organic that dissolve in the water not the solid organic waste Tongue

. If you see lots of bubble especially at he water return(e.g. water fountain), those are the organic I am talking about.
can PP remove smells from water since they clear organic waste?

Yes, PP does remove smell from the water. If ever you PP, and it turn brown after 1/2 hr, it shows lots of organic in the water. Thats the reason, multiple PP (max 3 times) need to be done, if you are using PP to kill the parasite. It need to remain pink/amber for at least 4-6hrs to be effective. There are some articles on using PP at the koivet web site.

Cheers.

koi@kit
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Dec 11, 2006, 9:34 AM

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Hi Thomas..

very informative.. many thanks..

any thing to put if the pp remain purple after 6hrs? will it cause any harm?

rgds

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