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sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 1:07 PM

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Last sunday, a few koi kichi have met up in the urge of seeing the progress of other members koi ponds. At the same time, not to forget to learn from each other techniques and skillful koi growing technique. Cool

It was a sunny morning and haze has been everywhere but that doesnt border us a bit when looking at those ponds and our mouths were wide open (at least mine Wink

) , Oh this.!!......... Oh that..............!!! so nice!....... what!!?? 48nya????? Let the story rolls on...........

The First pond is in sunshinekoi house. Unfortunately no picture were taken (totally forgot) and wasnt mind blowing, anyway Pirate

. so we skipped to Next new pond of Mr...... Laugh

The pond is 1 month old, set up with settlement tank, K1 chamber, bio chamber and BS system. A pond of 35 tons++ with 8feet deep.

K1 media with lots of bubbles (looks like boiling water)

Bakki shower in operation.

Top tray of BS showing maturity slowly begins

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sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 1:29 PM

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Next Pond, Our Famous Dafish. Visiting his twin-turbo filter on his mini tank but breath taking 55cm koi (and still growing with vivid hi colour) Crystal clear water all the way down the tank bottom and his kois are just fantastic!! Cool

Dafish rubbed his hand clean for "show time"
Scott, Kit and Mr. Robert together with his wife were thinking......"How did dafish manage his big koi???" 55cm???? what? again??

Scott and Kit were on the move to get the koi sashimi-ed. Sorry wrong word!! Tongue

Should have said net it out for inspection?? Laugh

Momotaro male with strong hi. This shows the power of sun when you have the koi grows outdoor!!

koi@kit
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Aug 14, 2006, 1:44 PM

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president sunshine..

i think u make a mistake.. the 1st pond of ur post is 50 ton not 35ton... please correct me Crazy

..

well done.. keep the pictures rolling man..

sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 2:05 PM

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Next Pond, Robert's house.

Before we starts on anything, we were greeted by Robert famous kuching laksa. Smells a miles away and have to taste it in no time.

We have to thanks Robert and Sue for their hospitality and tasty laska!! Wink

Before we go further, we have to salute Robert and his wife on their creativity on pond setup and design. Their DIY works opens up some of our minds and wonder who can come close to that in Brunei when talking about pond DIY. Laugh

Rigorous TT of Robert overnight work! Purely bioball and a very slim layer of matt on top to filter water. Anybody want to buy number, robert is giving you 2 numbers now. The rest you have to figure out. Sly

The water flow is rushing.

sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 2:13 PM

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DIY air-ring that made out of air-stone

Air-ring in action!

Robert is explaining the water system and what else need to be upgraded/improved. Laugh

sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 2:24 PM

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Some of Robert's living jewels

Next!!
Our Secret Society Chairman house,

The strong air bubble which jumbo kois encircle on!

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sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 2:29 PM

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Another view of what's on tonight dinner. Oops! sorry, wrong expression! Tongue

Others, your turn to post more pictures. Sly

koi@kit
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Aug 14, 2006, 2:41 PM

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president...

do u notice i m watching my sakai kohaku's skin quality? i think my sakai oredi grown a few cm in a month only heheheheh... cant wait to bring her home Wink

sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 3:34 PM

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wah,
"your" sakai koi grows so fast??? a few cm in a month. Mine not even start to beef up yet leh..... Tongue

Sunshine

koi@kit
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Aug 14, 2006, 3:40 PM

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mr president..

u got sakai kohaku at paul's pond?? i tot theres only 2 sakai kohaku.. which.. one is MINE.. Cool

more pictures...please/...

sunshinekoi
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Aug 14, 2006, 4:20 PM

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dafish
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Aug 14, 2006, 10:53 PM

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Sai Hu & President, Sorry for keeping u all waiting..

Pic1 - Male Momotaro Kohaku - size = 55cm..
Pic 3 - Male Momotaro Kohaku - Size = 48cm..but the size of the koi can not compared to the pair of hand (which belongs to Sai hu.. Laugh

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Pic 2 - Female Momotar Showa - size = 40cm...been with me for almost 1 month..

Another Male Momotaro Kohaku posted by sunshine is one of the same batch with Pic 1& Pic 2.

A lot of ppl doubted that these batch of Momo koi are useless (cant grow big), but thanks to Sai Hu recommendation which i trust and I'm indeed a very happy koi keeper for these koi which are with me for the last 8 month. Laugh

Hope that they will continue to grow... Smile

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Robert Lee
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:18 AM

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Dear Senor Presidente

Thanks for you and the rest of the ci fus for the visit and me and sue really learned a lot from the on the spot discussions.
And aslo thanks for 10 kgs of bacteria house which has been placed on the same day on the lower tray and the bio balls has been transfered to the other section. I also inceased the pipe size to 4'' dia type as per your suggestion and the flow is now very much better.

sunshinekoi
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:24 AM

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Dafish,
Just to add on to your glory and for others information, you have the best water we have tested so far in terms of water parameter. Keep it up and we for sure will looking forward for a progressive growth on your koi. Maybe 2 to 3 cm per month?? Wink

Keep it up with the water quality and dont make any more adjustment on your water!! Mad

Success!

Sunshine

koi@kit
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:35 AM

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cifu robert..

many thank to u and sue for the wonderful and yummy laksa.. too bad some member cant turn up to try it hahahhah Laugh

glad dat u n sue have learn a lot during the visits.. we have soo many things to discuss abt water quality, skin quality n feeding pattern... hope more member can join us next time for more update skills n secret of raising good quality koi..

rgds
kit

koi@kit
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:45 AM

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Sai Kong dafish..

u have prove to us ur water quality is the best during the visit Tongue

.. u make all of us envy and challege in the future to product much better water quality than urs.. Tongue

.. keep it up.. Smile

as for ur kohaku... i have notice very bright Hi and soft shiroji.. not to mentioned the massive body size of ur "MALE" kohaku.. hope to see them grow to 60cm soon...job well done..

i remembered those koi are slow grower when u bot them.. Unsure

... but u have unlocked their growth potential by producing good water quality n feeding high quality food....

a piece of advice thou.... built a new pond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... ur koi tooooooo crowded oredi Sly

..

well done..

rgds
kit

koi@kit
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:48 AM

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mr president..

seriously i was shock when i see the growth rate of dafish's showa!!!! its as big as ur showa man!!!!... i think i m gonna lose this growth out event orredi Crazy

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2 to 3cm a month??? i think dafish can do it.. he had ordered another 10kg paste!!!.... dats 10kg in less than 2mth!!!! not to mentioned his 10kg izeki pellets and momotaro 2kg 'mix'....

also the most important thing.... 3 time a day wash his sponge!!!! Sly

rgds
kit

sunshinekoi
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:53 AM

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Cifu Kit,
I guess you are wrong again. Laugh

I dont even know how to feed and grow koi man. Wink

Where got chance to compete? hahahahahaha. You guys have fun while I am still cracking my head on water quality. Frown

Sunshine

koi@kit
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Aug 15, 2006, 9:06 AM

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mr president ..

yah i forgot.. ur XXX is the one looking after ur koi.. Laugh

.. i guess ur XXX will have topump ur showa more in this few month Tongue

sunshinekoi
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Aug 15, 2006, 9:57 AM

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hahahahahahah, me begineer level. what is koi ah?? Laugh

thiamhwa
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Aug 15, 2006, 10:54 AM

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Hi Robert Lee,

I hope you don't mind me making some comments regarding your pond's water. From the photos
posted by Cifu Sunshinekoi, it seems to me that there is a thick yellowish tint in your water.
I think you may want to try placing a layer of fine white cotton wool over the top tray of your
Bakki Shower to act as a sieve to trap all those minute floating particles. You will have to replace
the cotton wool with a new one everyday or else the water will overflow out dued to the clogged up
to the cotton wool. Just try it out for the next few days whether this method will be successful in
getting rid of the yellowish tint. If it did not, those rolled cotton wool are quite cheap to purchase
and not too great a loss, hahahahahh!

Good Luck & Best Regards,
Thiam Hwa

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thiamhwa
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Aug 15, 2006, 1:03 PM

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Hi Robert Lee,

Just wanted to add a further comments regarding your pond's BH Shower set-up. It seem to me
that you have 2 nos. pumps placed directly in the pond to pump water up to your Bakki Shower,
am I correct?
From the photos, It looks like the 2 pumps are located quite close to the Bakki Shower. If it was,
may I suggest that you have a longer piping for the pumps to be located at the furthest end of the
pond away from the Bakki Shower so that the returning water flow circulation within the pond
will be more evenly distributed.
With your current set-up now, the returning water from the Bakki Shower is instantly suck back in
by the pumps. Hence, the water circulation cover only a small area and not the entire pond. It is
important that a pond should not have dead spots for stagnant water to accumulate because these
will contribute to the poor water quality, IMHO.

Best Regards,
Thiam Hwa

Robert Lee
Koi Lover

Aug 15, 2006, 1:30 PM

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Dear Thiam Hwa

Thanks a lot for your comments and yes ci fu sunshine felt the same way. You guys are really good and will do the necessary adjustment.
At the moment my colleagues are making proper stand for both the Bakki shower and the trickle shower.
I have two pumps jetting the water around the pond.
On the trickle shower I have a lay geotextitle filter but i think it is still not sufficent.
Can the filter cloth be placed directly on the bacteria house?

thiamhwa
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Aug 15, 2006, 1:50 PM

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Hi Robert Lee,

I am sure you can place a filter cloth directly over the Bacteria House. You can tell by looking at it
whether the debris collected contain very fine particles or not after a few hours. If not, I would advise
you to use the fine white cotton wool as suggested earlier. I think it trap dirts better, IMHO.

Cheerio,
Thiam Hwa

Robert Lee
Koi Lover

Aug 15, 2006, 1:57 PM

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Dear Thiam Hwa,

the filter cloth that i used get clog up in just 2 hours. And normally just let overflow until eveining when i get home. So one change in morning and one in the evening and they are not difficult to wash just spray them.

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