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koi@kit
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Jan 29, 2008, 10:07 AM

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any comment on this kohaku?

dechoong
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Jan 29, 2008, 3:42 PM

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Hi kit,

Hope I read the wording on the picture correctly.

It's an offspring of Botan II yes? This line is quite obscure unlike the famed Rose and Benibana series. At 62cm for a sansai it is quite small... I would prefer high 60s for sansai for a safe bet to reach jumbo status. Not sure how accurate is the colour tone of the picture, but its hiban looks awesome with superb shiroji.

-Dennis

koinutx
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Jan 29, 2008, 4:38 PM

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Hi, is this the same piece that was in the S'pore Koi Show? Wink

koi@kit
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Jan 30, 2008, 9:41 AM

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hi Dennis..

did u go to see the singapore young koi show? i didnt see u there Unimpressed

..

u r rite abt the skin quality, it simply take ur breath away.. Cool

as for reaching 'jumbo' i m sure she can, as sakai say 'she can' hhahhahahhah..

butan from sakura line?? rose from sakura line?? Crazy

koi@kit
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Jan 30, 2008, 9:43 AM

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Hi Koinutx..

yes, this is the kohaku in the singapore young koi show.

any comment ??

koinutx
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Jan 30, 2008, 8:55 PM

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Hi Koinutx..

yes, this is the kohaku in the singapore young koi show.

any comment ??

Hi Koi@Kit,

This is an excellent fish for Show.

On the size, I personally didn't get the "Wow" factor on my first look of the koi at the dealer pond. It doesn't have a strong shoulder bone to go with.
However, it term of proportional of length verses width, this fish has not put on girth yet. So there could still be chance for her to catchup on the length in our Asia climate.

The current smaller size could be due to many reasons, such as a later spawn of the year, didn't go thru a 2nd mud pond stay in Nisai, etc, which you will probably know better on her history.
Smile

dechoong
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Jan 30, 2008, 9:56 PM

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Hi kit,

I was busy on saturday so didn't turn up for the show. However, I did drop by Diamond koi on sunday and had a close look at the young GC sanke... impressive sumi.

Botan II and Rose are indeed from the Sakura line... I just don't see many offspring of Botan at koi show. From my reference, your koi was spawned on 2005.6.21

On a side note, what do you think are the chances of your Botan reaching 80cm... say within the next 2 years? I know of a prominent local hobbyist whose Sakai Rainbow bought in Oct 2006 auction as a nisai at 55cm, is now over 80cm as a sansai Shocked

. He doesn't force feed his koi, just that his koi facilities are absolutely 1st rate.

-Dennis

Snowpea
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Jan 30, 2008, 10:23 PM

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I'm back...
Lol... This joker still alive ka? Angelic

Sure not this your koi? Don't cut and paste la! LoL

sunshinekoi
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Jan 31, 2008, 2:35 AM

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Hi kit,
It is indeed an impressive kohaku with very good skin quality. The setback of our showcase is the climatic issue as Koinutx mentioned. How to maintain that lustre shine, vivid colour is a ??
Nonetheless, it is just a matter of time to master the climatic trick. Wink

The set up of the filtration, the way we feed, the food and the water, (a lot more!!) etc etc will have to go into a re-think process. More experience need to be brought in to improve skills further.

I am sure we will be there. I look forward to see such beauty in your hand sometime, maybe?? Tongue

sunshine

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 8:06 AM

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haha snowpea, who ever u are. for ur information, this is a koi of my fren, i never mentioned its my koi, i just cut n

paste to share with others to share comment with the permission of the owner himself, not to talk 'bulls*it" here..

(This post was edited by koi@kit on Jan 31, 2008, 8:16 AM)

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 8:09 AM

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hi koinutx,

according to the owner, this koi will catch up later part of her year as wat dennis mentioned. i m not sure too. lets hope for the best. yes i agree with u when u said this koi hv less girth during the show, she was quarantin in japan til the koi show, i think abt 2 wks without food Pirate

.... will definately see her again in may for the international koi show.

rgds

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 8:10 AM

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hi dennis..

when u said 1st rate facilities, u mean big pond or high tech filter system? willing to share?? Laugh

rgds

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 8:14 AM

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hi sunshine..

this koi which i forget to mentioned to koinutx is .. she is well keep in a chilled pond of 22'c in a dealer's pond. dont think its a problem with climate issues..

as for feeding, i m sure a 'sakai' dealer know his sakai koi very well.. he know better than me when come to looking after sakai kois Laugh

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lets just wait and see in May how this koi will perform..

rgds

koinutx
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Jan 31, 2008, 9:46 AM

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Hi Koi@Kit,

I know the dealer and his facility well and I believed he can take good care of the fish and maintain its show quality for May show. I've very good experience and result from the same dealer. Tongue

I think the dealer will have a challenging time trying to condition the fish and make it ready for the May show, as it can be quite stressful for the fish to first settle down in our water and environment, and the next moment have to be condition for show.

And to strategise for the show, looking at the size now, she may be hit 66-67cm in 3-4 months time, which will make her a disadvantage for the 70Bu, while if pushing her toward a growth rate to meet 70cm, the quality my drop.... Crazy

(headache.... Pirate

, so let's leave it to the dealer to worry. Cool

)

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 10:12 AM

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hi koinutx..

the owner and the dealer with my present did discuss abt this issue of whether to make the koi grow or just maintain the size.. i cant tell u more abt the decision made. i hv to get permission from the owner. Unimpressed

the dealer did his homework b4 bringing in this koi. he know better then me whether to further growing this koi Laugh

one thing for sure he will not force feed the koi to grow, lets wait til may to see the dealer's skills.. Sly

will try to update this koi if i get the info.. Smile

BRUCE LIM
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Jan 31, 2008, 10:20 AM

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HI Snowpea

First of all I really welcome you to this koi forum (Brunei). Its nice to heard from a new chatter (like you) giving opinion on topics posted by our (Grand master KoiKit) fellow member in this forum. You must be very happy and enjoyed reading such a imformative articles provided by all the other members too.

A person like you should be mature enough to read and appreciate articles posted by our Grand master (Koi@Kit). In this case what I read from your comment is not acceptable. Tongue

Worst of all, a mature person (like youself) who can write this type of statement in this forum totally resembled the behaviour of a littel tyke. Wink

Hope you can post us more interesting articles in future.

thanks

Kapok_koi
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Jan 31, 2008, 10:48 AM

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hi koi@kit,

is this the koi that ikut competition? still in singapore ryt?
if that is the koi that i saw in Singapore then i believe this koi will be as what u have though as well.

just wondering if this koi is going to brunei haha... it will sure be the main attraction...
koi hobby @ www.koiinbrunei.blogspot.com

Kapok_koi
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Jan 31, 2008, 10:56 AM

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welcome back snowpea...

please stay on the topic of the thread...koi@kit have been all this while very helpfull n kind in sharing information with regards to koi keeping

if u have no comment on the koi then simply keep on reading what is posted...

that koi can be his if he wants to..

i hope u can also share wif us in this forum on ur koi's interest n perhaps show us picture of ur koi...
koi hobby @ www.koiinbrunei.blogspot.com

forum watcher
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Jan 31, 2008, 11:07 AM

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Hi Snowpea,

I am a forum watcher until i read your comments i can not help myself but register as a user to tell you to get off this forum.
Everyone here is very constructive and you are very very very sure not needed here. Keep your comments to yourself

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 11:26 AM

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Hi Kapok_koi..

yes this koi was the 1st runner up at the singapore young koi show.. i m sure u hv seen her dat time, Sly

back to Brunei??? well... better keep in the chilled pond at dealer.. dealer is a very experience koi keeper especially sakai kois.. this koi will improve in his hand..

koi@kit
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Jan 31, 2008, 11:29 AM

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Hi forum watcher..

welcome to the Brunei Forum.. thank you for ur comment.. Smile

are u from Brunei?? need more member in Brunei to register as ZNA member, at least 25 member.. Smile

forum watcher
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Jan 31, 2008, 11:58 AM

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Hi koi@kit,

I am not from Brunei

sunshinekoi
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Jan 31, 2008, 4:30 PM

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Kit,
What I mean is if it is grown in a non-chiller pond, to bring out the shine and vivid colour such as those freshly imported direct from Japan,I think it will be skill tackling. Temperature is influenced by Climate and so it plays a big part in getting the ideal composition. Laugh

Sunshine

Snowpea
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Jan 31, 2008, 5:03 PM

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Mr Fung Shui Master,

LOL..... SO MANY SUPPORTERS NOW AH...... Shocked

Last time was Nelson, Maxilla, Mr. Rotan, sunshinekoi, dafish, benghian, isma_3971, wiser,koi ku,kapok koi,koidamit and KRP???????????, bla, bla, bla....... why they so quiet now. LOL..... SO CHICKEN SHIT!!!

Anyway, will be visiting some friends in Japan again with my Dad this few week. If i see any of the dealers over there will ask if they know your name or not.

Laugh

kemeer
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Jan 31, 2008, 5:30 PM

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oiiiii Budak Kurang Hajar!!!

why the f*%k do you have to show up again ah. Mad

For someone so brainless & ignorant in koi keeping, you sure are THICK! Go dream-on la and live in ure own little perfect world. Kana buang sekulah ko sudah? Iatah nah, telampau di asuh talur atu. Japan lah dis lah dat lah, sanke & showa pun inda tau. Wasting time bro Pirate

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