Hello there Paul, thanks a lot for the gading mas infos, no wonder I couldn't find the place...about the sunter koi, I just got their phone number 2 days ago from the forum. I talked with pak sugiharto yesterday and already agreed to purchase the 5 kg ogata (color purpose, small size pellet) but thank you for the offer though, I'd really appreciate it. I actually haven't tried the saki-hikari, although I heard it mentioned a lot. By the way, what size of pellet do you get in those 15 kgs bulk purchase if I may ask?

Best regards,

Peter

Hello Paul, how is the result of saki hikari ?
15 kg of saki hikari wow u must have lots of koi ? my 34 koi only consume 4 kg of sakai wheatgerm in 1 month ..

U r welcome Pete, the 15kg only comes in large size pelet I think. I heard ogata colour is good but havent tried it yet. So far I tried Excel and Sakai Colour but presently i no longer feed colour food but i feed paste food containing ground dried shrimp + pelet + honey + vitamin. I feed this paste food once a day. Do you live in Klp Gdng area btw ?

Hello Peter, since u r new to this hobby, i suggest u get 50 % kohaku, 15 % sanke, 15% showa n others 20 % ..
ur pond will look very beautiful, i myself want to keep 80 % kohaku, 20 % the rest, but fail to do so hehehe ..

beautiful fish u got there Paul, very nice & clean pattern....how do you make those paste?If you have the time, then please advise a novice koi's hobbyist such as myself I went to nirwana about 3 weeks ago, and they didn't have any small size pellet in stock, but anyway I ended up getting a kujaku & a gin hi utsuri.......tomorrow though, I will try to pick up my ogata from sunter as this week I'm pretty busy in my office so unable to have those "long lunch hour" time thanks again for your infos Paul

cheers,

Peter

My fish counts currently is 16 and i want to reduce it even further to 10 until my new pond is done. It seems u r a sakai fan ? frequent visitor of golden ?

Hi Paul,
also want to reduce my koi to 20, but its easier said than done , yap sakai koi is numero uno, ichiban for my taste .. frequent visitor ? that depends hehehe ..
for koi food, well its just a matter of convenience coz golden got delivery service, although sometime i go there to pick it up myself and have n excuse to look at koi hehehe ..
btw nice kohaku ..

Hi Peter,

if its a metallic one, there's a big chance that it would be hariwake doitsu although there is also a metallic version of kohaku doitsu but its very rare ..
if ur looking 4 kohaku, i went to sunter last month to look 4 ochiba but couldn't find any that i like instead i find 3 very nice tosai kohaku there, i especially like the inazuma, maybe u could take a look 4 urself, btw i don't have any business, family relation with Pak Sugi the owner of sunter koi hehehe , just a suggestion ..
i'm not a big fan of asagi so i dont have any suggestion ..

The main base for the paste is the koi pellets, you use a blender to grind the stuffs you wants your kois to eat. The ratio of the pellets is always the largest (e.g. 50% minimal) because the pellets contains binding agent that is important for making the paste. After it becomes smooth you add water (containing honey, vitamin) little by little in order to make the small pieces (peanuts size). Tip: if you add koi clay, it makes the paste less sticky when handling.

The main goal of making this paste is to perform select feeding and it is more fun feeding koi this way. At first the fish may shy away when u throw something that sinks into the pond so make the paste size smaller and dont throw it all at once ! start little by little by throwing near to the greediest fish and soon the others will follow.

I think in this hobby everyone is still learning, all you can do is minimize the damaged cost .. by being a keen learner and do not hesitate to ask or share your experience ..

A friend of mine actually does release his unwanted kois (I remember 2 of them were imported one) into a nearby public pond instead of giving away it for adoption. I don't agree that unwanted koi, being an import or local one, should be release into a public pond, personally I think it's better to give it away for adoption.
Btw, you mentioned Laris, did you mean Laris aquarium that also sells chiller in Makaliwe area?Thanks for infos Paul

cheers,

Peter