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rickytanoto
Koi Lover

Oct 5, 2004, 10:57 AM

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Hi guys,

Lets start our own koi appreciation in this Indonesian forum.

You can post picture of your kois and let every body comment on your kois.

Who will start first?

thanks
ricky


David Kuantoro
Koi Lover

Oct 7, 2004, 7:35 PM

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halo , all the koi forum member

sorry i started first . please comment on my koi

cheers
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David Kuantoro
Koi Lover

Oct 7, 2004, 7:38 PM

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again

remember . please comment WinkWinkWink
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David Kuantoro
Koi Lover

Oct 7, 2004, 7:41 PM

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hei hei hei

this again
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rickytanoto
Koi Lover

Oct 11, 2004, 12:45 PM

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I like your three step kohaku. Is it local bred or jap breed? it must cost you a lot.


rickytanoto
Koi Lover

Oct 11, 2004, 12:48 PM

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You got 2 shusui with excellent red color. I like the second one better. Again is it local or jap bred?
how much do they cost?


rickytanoto
Koi Lover

Oct 11, 2004, 12:51 PM

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Wow your chagoi is jumbo. I bet it must be the most friendly among your others. Do you raise it from small or you bought it when it is already this big?


David Kuantoro
Koi Lover

Oct 11, 2004, 7:46 PM

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hello

Sorry if the water is not crystal clear enough . because before that day i just add low level PP . so the water is slightly brown or yellow .
the three step kohaku is local breed . i bought it at fish market at Rp 50 ribu at 10 cm .
The chagoi is the same . i bought that chagoi at 25 cm .
i just think the difference between jap breed and local breed is the food . if you bought a little local koi and give them a good food i think they can be shiny and big as the jap breed .
BTW what about your pond and koi . where's the picture ? i'm waiting MadMadMad

cheers


vibrant color
Koi Lover

Apr 27, 2005, 10:29 PM

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vibrant color
Koi Lover

Apr 27, 2005, 10:35 PM

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Hi, i'm a new guy in here!Sorry saya pengen tanya...saya sich nggak ngerti banget soal koi tapi saya demen banget pelihara koi sampe skrg dan saya berniat punya berbagai macam jenis...nach yang saya pengen tanya...chagoi itu katanya ikan penjinak ya?bener apa nggak?terus chagoi yang kamu punya beli dimana kalo boleh tau?Nanti saya juga pengen kasih lihat koi2 yang saya punya!Thanks!


ari-raja05
Koi Lover

Apr 29, 2005, 11:29 AM

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Hi David...,
Your comment about local kois is very very interested, because I have some locak kois too. Ia have three sushuis like yours, one big kohaku, four yellow ogon, and some little kois in may pond. My question is, to make their collour shiny, what food you give to them, how much the price. At that time, I give my kois with Beauty Koi Food, is it good dan can make shiny?

Best Regard,
Ari- Solo.


David Kuantoro
Koi Lover

Apr 29, 2005, 9:33 PM

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halo Vibrant color and ari raja05
finally there are somebody reply my post . hip hip huray .
for vibrant color i buy my chagoi in semarang city in about 20 cm .
for ari raja05 . i feed my koi with Saki Hikari Color enhanced food and Saki HIkari Growth . and the last week in month i feed with Hikari Wheat germ .
the color is about 1,2 juta in 20 kg bulk. the growth about 800 ribu in 20 kg bulk and Hikari Wheat germ about 300 ribu in 5 kg bulk .
i don't know about beauty koi food . but i believe there is allways a different between expensive and cheap koi food.

Thanks

David


GCSpyder
Koi Addict


Apr 29, 2005, 9:57 PM

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Hi David,

Love your Chagoi too! must be a real pig and a joy during meal times.

cheers..


vibrant color
Koi Lover

Apr 30, 2005, 1:12 AM

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Ohhh Semarang City...no wonder it's so cheap...coz here u'll never get at that price!But anyway thank's for your information!So you from Semarang, is it?Anyway, did any of you guys know about koi exhibition at PRJ (Kemayoran) 29-1 Mei...coz i just saw it in front of PRJ...so i thought it will be nice for you guys to know it!


ari-raja05
Koi Lover

May 6, 2005, 1:53 PM

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Chagoi ternyata memang koi penjinak. Bgt membaca pertanyaan Vibrant Color, saya langsung beli chagoi. Harganya 200.000, ukuran 50 cm. Memang sudah jinak dari sononya. Yg menyenangkan, begitu saya masukkan ke kolam, 2 hari kemudian, ikan-ikan koi lainnya ikutan jinak. Sekarang, saya bisa kasih makan koi dengan tangan saya. Mereka makan makanan yang ada di telapak tangan saya. Asyik.


vibrant color
Koi Lover

May 9, 2005, 12:03 AM

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Hai ari...so it's true, right?Anyway where did u buy the chagoi....coz i also plan to buy it but i haven't find the right price...so if u don't mind please tell me where did u buy it!N if u dont mind too....please post the picture of your chagoi....coz i'm just curious how the koi look's like!Thank's a lot!


luckyl
Koi Lover

May 10, 2005, 9:27 AM

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For me Chagoi is a ugly murky fish just like a common carp... Its not for beauty, but only for fun and taming purposes. If you have limited pond spaces like mine, you will think twice. They grow very fast and eat very very much (get ready with your pocket). If you want to tame your fish, there are other ways, just take times and patient, like fasting them for 1-2 weeks. But if space is not a problem and you also want a big fish in your pond, then you can buy want. If you want a real big big fish, then buy an arapaima....CoolCool He will grow big when he ate all your koi.

cheers,


Soelistyo
Koi Lover

May 10, 2005, 10:30 AM

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everyone will have their own opinions so i won't try to change luckyl's. but for me chagoi is a thing of beauty. i've seen really nice chagois with perfectly netted scales and nicely proportioned bodies. they may never catch your eye the way a nice jumbo gosanke does, but they have their own function in the pond aesthetically. other ways to tame your fish? yes, probably there are, but trust me even if you fast them for 2-3 weeks, and they are so hungry that they will feed from your hand, there will always be an air of apprehension about them. without the easing presence of a chagoi in their pond, 99% of gosankes will continue to snatch at the food, and the moment you try to pat their heads they will zoom off toward the bottom of the pond at top speed, no matter how "well trained" they are or how hungry you've made them. In the meantime the gentle chagoi may be distracted by such disturbance, but give her 5 seconds and she will be back up again accepting the pellets from your fingers and allowing you to stroke her head and chin (or probably chins!) in exchange for the food.

really perfect jumbo chagois are probably just as rare as a champion quality jumbo gosanke, as most develop a short head, or a dropped belly, or uneven netting / scalation. but the second class of chagois are not that far off the top chagois. this is very different to gosanke, as the ones that cost reasonable prices are always as different from the top gosankes as the earth is to the sky (sorry to borrow a Hokkian phrase!).

personally, i think every pond should have one nice fat juicy chagoi. they bring something very different to the table than any other type of koi. more than a year ago, i lost an 82cm fawn colored chagoi that was extremely friendly to me and my wife. it was like losing a family friend. i spent hours trying to revive it and my usually cheerful wife was absolutely silent that whole day. i almost couldn't bring myself to look at my pond for the next week as i kept thinking of the chagoi. i blamed myself for not having acted earlier when i had noticed she had not come up to feed from my hand that morning before i left for work. until this day, my young nephew when he greets me asks the same question, where is the yellow chagoi? he misses her.
try developing that kind of relationship with your gosanke!!!

that chagoi wasn't cheap as i bought her when she was 74cm. but it wasn't the money. i've lost a nisai gosanke that cost a few times the price of her. but i didn't really bother all that much when i was told that the gosanke had passed. it's different with chagoi.

so to not like chagoi, i understand. everyone's taste is different.
but please don't call them ugly murky fish. you'd be insulting my late friend.


koi 888
Koi Lover

May 10, 2005, 11:24 AM

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Oh, joy. very well written of you as always. You silently get your point across with a big bang. i m sure luckyl would understand that. In someway, luckyl's point correspond to my situation, i have limited pond space and once in a while a visitor who look upon my kois said these comments: what is that brown colour 'thing' (i presumed they think it was ugly) and its soo greedy it ate all most of the pellets hence burn hole in your pocket.

My chagoi is very tame and its almost her who come up first to suck pellets from my finger. A while back ago, she survived a quite herendous cut on her side that left the flesh open, however she has recovered now but the scar remains. Whenever she ate, never make big splash or dash for the pellets. She is very calm and i believe others look upon her for her sense of calmness and poise. It is hard to find good specimen indeed, mine has short coming such as short head and sign of pot belly. But, i hesitate to let it go, perhaps i would relocate her to my second pond but will others manage to get over her departure ?? I quess i have to find out and more likely would find a replacement for her, perhaps a tame (hopefully) ochiba.


ari-raja05
Koi Lover

May 10, 2005, 12:56 PM

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Hallo David and VC,
It's pictures of my koi. May be not so good like yours, but I love them. I wait your comment.
To VC, about Chagoi, I bought its in Solo. There are three other chagoi in that koi shop, but in a different price. They are Rp 350.000/chagoi. Their color is brown, clean and beauty (for me).
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vibrant color
Koi Lover

May 10, 2005, 10:48 PM

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Thank you to luckyl,soelistyo,n koi888....i thank to all of u for your comment n your suggestion....but anyway i still plan to buy chagoi coz i wanna collect all kinds of koi in my pond...so i hope i'll find a good one!
Hai Ari....so u bought from Solo....so it's quite far from me then....by the way ur from Solo?Oh ya your koi also nice....who said it's not good like mine....as long u love them, then it doesn't matter what people say....hehhee!Anyway i also plan to buy shusui like yours...hayyaaa i'm so greedy....coz i can't stand if i see a koi with a nice color n of course with a nice prize!Oh ya u didn't take a photo of your chagoi?How many koi do u have Ari...i think u have a lot too, is it?


ari-raja05
Koi Lover

May 11, 2005, 1:06 PM

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Hi VC...., I had take my chagoi picture in reply to ' Kois mix with koki, bolehkah?'. Now, I have 3 shusui (40 cm), 1 sanke (50 cm), 2 sanke (20 cm), 4 platinum yellow ogon, 1 chagoi, and many koy fry ini my tree litle ponds.
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neutokoi
Koi Lover

May 12, 2005, 7:42 PM

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Fully agree with the nature of Chagoi, yesterday I went to a shop and they have a Chagoi around 35cm with some Ginrin scales, the fish is so friendly that it allow you to pet it like a cat. If my pond is not overcrowded, I was thinking of buying one also.....


ari-raja05
Koi Lover

May 13, 2005, 11:28 AM

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Hi all...,
I have a lot of koi fries in my pond. Their size is about 2 - 5 cm. Some of them have the red colour circle in their body. One of them which the picture I take here now. My question: Is it tancho? Hope your answer and comment. Thank's.
Regards,
Ari
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GCSpyder
Koi Addict


May 13, 2005, 2:13 PM

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Hi Ari,

Wow, that is really a small pix of a fry Cool. Cannot really tell but it appears that the hi has extended all the way to the shoulder area. A true tancho should have the red spot only on the head (hachi)

cheers..

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