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canuckpuck
Koi Lover

May 22, 2006, 9:35 PM

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So that this forum can be eventually rid of the unfortunate spamming of a new member...

WHERE CAN I GET BAKKi SHOWER TRAYS MADE?? Cheers!

longlong
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 12:45 AM

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hi canuck! what material are you thinking of using for your shower? I think those plastic crates you see for bakeries should work. If you want a stainless one then got o a foundry shop. It shouldnt be too hard there. I have a lot of foundry suppliers but unfortunately they are here in our province:) im sure you can supply the foundry shops witht he dimensions and have them do it all stainless steel:)

cheers,
long

canuckpuck
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 12:57 AM

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Can you give me an idea as to how much a steel bakki trays would cost? the thing about plastic is if i drill holes the holes will eventually get clogged or if a drill big holes i'm afraid that the bottom will eventually break over time... plus they're ugly hehe. and the plastic bins used in industrial bakeries are still too small because the biggest bread bin i've worked with is roughly 3x2ft. My pond is 5500 gallons. Momotaro recommends that I use 4 trays filled with 250-300kgs of bacteria house. btw, i'm using plastic drawers as a diy bakki shower and i have to unclog once a month.

anyway, if you could give me a price range that would be great so i know if i'm getting overcharged or what. :D oh yeah, and the water is pre filtered and passes through a biochamber as well so the shower won't get very dirty water.

thanks again!

longlong
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 1:32 AM

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hi canuckpuck,

if you can give me the dimensions and what materials that you need i can ask around for you.

long

tangigi3
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 11:37 AM

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Hi,

I have a quotation in front of me from my stainless fabricator and they are suppose to be one of the cheapest.

ss rectangular bin with mesh bottom
dimension 106" x 12 " x 12 " (9 feet in length by 1 by 1). I was planning one long tray first
18 inch height stand
16 guage
1/6" diameter mesh bottom
1/2 diameter tubular stand with 1 inch brace

peso 17,000. yikes! I had to rethink my plan.

lar

mikoi
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 12:02 PM

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Lar,

thats not bad at all. I inquired about it myself
around last year and the guy quoted me for 10,000 php, but it was not really the finest material nor it was pretty looking either. I belive the guy was going to use soft bendable stainless steal for me.
I went to a aluminum door and wondow guy hehehe....so I guess thats not stainless steel but rather aluminum...yikes.

mikoi
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 12:05 PM

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TO be honest its an eye sore talaga ang
Bakki shower ( I dont care what you say
canuckpuck..hide it or camouflage it with
bamboo..yuck...hehehe) but of course
thats just me.....hehehehe

the next person who will invent a
koi filter system should never forget to
incorporate the desgins to go with the
koi ponds garden..hhehehe

canuckpuck
Koi Lover

May 23, 2006, 6:27 PM

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I found an ad in an industry magazine which featured a manufacturer of plastic bins... there's this one product that they call a chicken bin and it looks to be about perfect for my purposes. If it comes in black I wouldn't mind buying it. I'll post the web address when i get back to the office. I'm currently searching for their website so hopefully i can find them.

17k for a 9ft long trough? not bad since it's 16 gauge. I've worked out the volume of a bakki tray and have to measure the space i have to find out which dimensions would fit nicely in my pond area.

Thanks for the quote tang!

Well it's good that this forum is active again! Now let's post some pics of our beloved kois in longlong's thread!

tangigi3
Koi Lover

May 24, 2006, 2:40 PM

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canuck,

let me know about the plastic bin. hope it is 12 inch deep and 12 inch wide. length is not a major factor for me. I will probably cut out 70% of the bottom and insert a stainless mesh ( I dont think I want to go through the trouble of drilling holes). the rectangular flower pots I have seen are not big enough.

Lar

Koi38
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May 24, 2006, 3:10 PM

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Hi Guys,

If you can get something like these then you don't need to drill at all. There's enough vents for air exchange.
These are for my DIY TT coming soon Wink

Its approx 81cmL x 51cmW x 42cmD.

rgds,
Jon

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longlong
Koi Lover

May 24, 2006, 8:42 PM

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hey jon,

thats what i meant when i posted bout the plastic trays:)

Koi38
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May 25, 2006, 7:27 AM

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Hi Longlong,

Yep. I got lucky on these trays I saw them when I was driving past a warehouse. They were selling this for $2AUSD each and I bought the whole lot. I wish they had more though Smile

rgds,
Jon

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abasbas
Koi Lover

Jun 14, 2006, 8:20 AM

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hi. i have a TT made of plastic crates.. doesn't look that good but does the job well.. i bought it in a factory named PLASTIMER in Valenzuela.. Try calling this person Mr. Rey Pabalate, 09209136230 or better yet pay them a visit in Valenzuela. Hope this helps.

Thanks & regards,

Alain

abasbas
Koi Lover

Jun 15, 2006, 9:20 PM

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hi.. got a chance to go over my old files in the office and found this fax from Plastimer, the company where I bought my plastic crates. hope this helps.

this pic is my pond during the trial run.. at the corner is my TT.. :)

PS. sorry for the big pic.. i intentionally made it so you can easily view the fax. :(

Thanks & regards,

Alain

canuckpuck
Koi Lover

Jun 16, 2006, 12:52 AM

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Thanks Mr. abasbas, this will truly prove useful. Thank you also for posting the fax this will help ne decide which tray I'm going to use and it also serves as a great reference tool in the future for us here at the Philippines forum

abasbas
Koi Lover

Jun 16, 2006, 9:14 PM

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no problem, glad to be of help to fellow koi lovers.. Wink

Thanks & regards,

Alain

kennethc
Koi Lover

Jul 17, 2006, 3:59 PM

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That is a very cool DIY Bakki Showers Cool

Does anybody know where I can buy the Bacteria House filter media?

canuckpuck
Koi Lover

Jul 17, 2006, 11:21 PM

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No one sells BH media here because /kg is too expensive... way more expensive than bioballs. If you really want to buy BH media, you can email momotaro koi farms or copy paste this: http://www.momotaro-koi.org/english/news/bacteria.html

on your URL bar in your browser. As I recall, shipping 200-300kg of BH will cost you 30000 yen or about 15000 pesos add to that the cost of the media itself.

Alternatives you can use are cubed filter mats, bioballs or lavarock. I'll be using Lavarock and cubed filter mat for now since it's going to take a while to order lots of bioballs. Also take note that not all bioballs are created equally, there are some designs that have more surface area vs some that are the same size.

kennethc
Koi Lover

Jul 18, 2006, 12:50 AM

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Hi canuckpuck,

Thanks for the reply. That is so true. In fact, I did email Keirin Ponds, the distributor of Momotaro in the US, and 10kgs (22lbs) will cost around $195 bucks! And thats aside from the shipping pa! :( Shipping via air freight would definitely kill me. However, shipping via sea might prove less expensive. Still, the media is still quite expensive though. The price you pay for "Far infra-red rays". If Superman were a filter media, I guess this would be it.

Ah well.

Incidentally, I saw a real Momotaro Bakki Showers system being used at Koi Village. They use it on the tank where they keep their P150,000 Koi's They used lava rocks as the media.

(This post was edited by kennethc on Jul 18, 2006, 11:47 AM)

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