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dreamkoi
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Jul 11, 2004, 4:05 AM

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Hi Hindley,

Read your posting.
Good luck on your 1st club meeting.Smile
If there's anything i can do to help at kaya naman pls let me know.
Are you from Cebu?
Bec. once in a while i also drop by your area to visit some koi hobbyist friends there.

Yours in koi,
Michael Hernandez


hinz101
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Jul 11, 2004, 6:30 AM

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Hi Michael

Actually it would be our 2nd meeting. Your the owner of Kois and Pond right? It would be a great help if you join the club and maybe on our third meeting be our guest speaker. We still have to generate funds so that we can pay for your fare. Yup, we are from Cebu. I would like to incourage you to put up a branch here in Cebu. If ever your in Cebu just let me know. My mobile no is 0927 469-6999.

Hindley


mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 11, 2004, 7:18 AM

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wow! in the flesh!

Mr. Hernandez, its been a long time since there have been new koi in your elliptical branch ... is it related to the import ban?



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hinz101
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Jul 11, 2004, 9:42 AM

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Hi Mike

I assume it was you who told Mike H. about the club right? Hope he will join the club for he will really be a big factor. We still havent made contact with Jose Lee though. Maybe later in the week we will send him an mms.

Hindley


dreamkoi
Koi Lover


Jul 11, 2004, 6:20 PM

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Hello Hindley!

Thanks for inviting me, it's really my pleasure to be of help to you guys.
Yes, I am from kOis & pOnds.
Keep it up!Smile
I cannot think of anything more pleasurable than to sit down one lazy afternoon with fellow koi enthusiasts talking about koi.
That is heaven for a koi nut like me.

May the Tategoi be with you, best regards,

Michael


dreamkoi
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Jul 11, 2004, 6:36 PM

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Hi Mike

Yes, our tosai kois and most of our nissai's and sansai kois too are sold out.
Our last shipment was December 2003.
There is still a ban on importing kois from Japan and it was implemented January of this year
Due to KHV in carp discovered first in the late 90's. Country of origin?- Million $ question!
Several articles are written to improve on koi husbandry and upgrade koi health knowlege.
Today, all koi keeping nations,
i.e. US, UK, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc,
except for 3 (including the PhilippinesPirate)
are priveleged to import kois from Japan.
That is why there are no new kois available at kOis & pOnds.

Yours in koi,
Michael


hinz101
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Jul 11, 2004, 8:24 PM

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Hi Michael

That would be great. Can you give me your email add so i can send you our membership form. One of our members here in Cebu already knew you coz he just bought a showa years ago in your store. He is Sgt. Virgilio Torres and dont know if you still remember him but he still remembers you quite well. He's also very happy that you made contact with us coz that was to be our next plan. Do you have a web site where we can view some of your products and equiptments?

May the Tategoi be with you, hehehe sound good ehhhh

Hindley


ucpondguy
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Jul 11, 2004, 8:48 PM

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Hi Hindley,
I emailed you my info about the membership form last night.

Take care,
Blue


hinz101
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Jul 11, 2004, 8:57 PM

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Hi Blue

Just received your info awhile ago.

Thanks
Hindley


mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 11, 2004, 9:59 PM

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Mr. hernandez,

they say the khv was for edible carps ... anyway, what about kois and ponds, when can we expect new stocks?
somehow, i dont believe anything is NOT DOABLE in the philippines. i mean, we cant wait indefinitely for new koi ... im sure you cant wait indefinitely ... one day, kois and ponds will really run out of koi to the last last fish.

thanks
mike



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mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 11, 2004, 10:08 PM

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mr. hernandez,

i bought this koi from your elliptical branch. can u please identify it. your guy over at the branch already told me what it was. but it sure doesnt look like any of the pictures of the particular variety he said it was.



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ucpondguy
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Jul 12, 2004, 12:08 AM

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Hi Mike,
I think it is a kin showa, had one like it here and they sold it here in the US. That was what the koi dealer told me. He is in the fish pond in the sky now because of the herons.


Here is an example:
http://www.koi.com/tategoi/tate4.html


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dreamkoi
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Jul 12, 2004, 12:57 AM

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Hi Hindley

I am glad that Sgt. Torres is happy with his showa.
We’ve been so busy so I keep forgetting abt the web site.
Thank you for including me in your plans.
I’ll be happy to share koi thoughts with all of you J
Enjoy koi

Michael
kois@pldtdsl.net


dreamkoi
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Jul 12, 2004, 1:01 AM

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Aragorn,

KHV is selective to carps.
My wife & I were in Japan on 2 separate occasions for a koi show this year 2004.
One was last April & again in May. The ones that were hit by the virus in Japan are just 2 areas of “magoi (carp for food) farms” being raised in the open river whilst the nishikigoi is cultured in man-made “ex-rice-field” converted ponds. As I’ve said earlier, the koi keeping nations (except for 3) are back to importing Japanese kois, and by closing our door to the outside world, this will surely drift us slowly away from excellence and will eventually open another door to mediocrity. I just hope that the ban is soon lifted and give the koi hobbyist… The choice.
In the picture you posted, you have a kin showa and platinum in the background
Enjoy the hobby & keep dreaming for your tategoi to bloom………Smile
Dreamkoi


koidoc
Koi Lover

Jul 12, 2004, 3:26 AM

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Hi Mike,

Re koi import ban to the Philippines,Thailand and Indonesia,I believe the authorities have for some reason,acted without checking the true facts about KHV.When some thing is banned it can be because of vested interests that would benifit by a ban.Could this be a possiblity with a KHV ban ?
In the UK there is much discussion with all interested parties and believe me if there was a risk of KHV in Nishikigoi,at best or worst depending on which "side" you were on,there would only be a ban on imports in the areas in Japan where KHV had been proved in magoi,not a total ban from all Japan.The relevant authorities in the UK are in contact with Japanese fisheries depts and my latest information is that there is unlikely to be a ban on any Nishikigoi imports to the UK.
When I was in Japan,visiting Niigata and Isawa,in February,many breeders we visited had taken precautions such as walking through disinfectant bowls and washing our hands before entering premises.All the koi I selected were in perfect health,and some of the tosai were in 20c and had been for many weeks,this is a temperature that would have activated KHV
Its is interesting that KHV is present in several countries and my guess is that only recently have been diagnosed due to the diagnostic tests that have been developed to establish this virus is present.
Certainly my Japanese friend keeps me well informed and the last koi I received at the end of June were in perfect health.
CoolLets hope that this ban is only temporary for the Philippines as I am sure that the risk is so small providing that koi come from non KHV areas so that all "koi-kichi" hobbyists can be happy ! Wink

Dave


hinz101
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Jul 12, 2004, 5:56 AM

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Hi Dave

Can you enlighten me what a KHV is?

Hindley


mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 12, 2004, 12:26 PM

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thanks mr. hernandez

re: the koi picture.
also from comments here in this board, i knew it was a kin showa, i was asking because the guy (from elliptical) who sold it to me said it was a kujaku. and i didnt even point to it to ask what that fish was, i asked him if u had a KUJAKU and this is what he sold me.

its really no problem. its nice in its own way. i just refused to believe the other posters here because i had confidence in the knowledgeability of the kois and ponds guy ... being the seller.

thanks again



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mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 12, 2004, 12:28 PM

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thats a very good point koidoc,
just like my theory that nothing is NOT DOABLE in the philippines

this may be a ban to benefit local koi breeders.



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mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 12, 2004, 12:30 PM

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thanks ucpondguy, (btw whats ur name?)

i was just confirming that fact with the owner of the establishment i got it from. of course it helps a lot that the same owner is an ALL JAPAN KOI JUDGE himself. so what he says is pretty much official Laugh



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ucpondguy
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Jul 12, 2004, 1:20 PM

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Sorry, misunderstood your post.

By the way, my real name is Blue


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dreamkoi
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Jul 12, 2004, 3:01 PM

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Aragorn

I apologize for the mistake of my staff – confusing a kin showa from a kujaku.
Dreamkoi


hinz101
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Jul 12, 2004, 5:08 PM

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Hi Michael

It was really nice talking with you bout koi and the about the club. Hope we can meet someday and that koi over and over againCrazyCoolSmile hehehehehe.

About the membership form, just give me some of your personal details tru my email add or just send me a private message so i can fill up the form for you. And i'll try to keep you posted on the meeting and how it turned out.

Thanks
Hindley


dreamkoi
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Jul 12, 2004, 7:22 PM

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Hl Hindley,

A pleasure to talk with you too, I will be sending the details soon. Thanks
Dreamkoi


mike c
Koi Kichi


Jul 12, 2004, 7:32 PM

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mr. hernandez,

its no problem. why arent there koi shows here in the Philippines?



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koidoc
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Jul 12, 2004, 8:02 PM

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Hi Hindley,

KHV (Koi Herpes Virus) is highly contagious and can cause 100% mortality.Some symptons are gill filament destruction,lethargy,excessive mucus,skin rotting and falling away!!!!UnsureThis has only been detected in magoi in Japan,in food fish farming and where discovered ALL magoi have been killed and strict disinfection programme carried out.As you know there is no cure for viral diseases,but experimental tests are being carried out with vaccination of infected fish.NO NISHIKIGOI HAVE BEEN INFECTED IN JAPAN.Tests are regularly being carried in Japan by the Fisheries Bureau to ensure good health thats why I cant understand import ban in the Philippines,believe me if there was a risk ,even small risk the UK authorities would impose immediate ban.I hope this is helpful to you and the club members.

Regards,
Dave

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