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atty_rane_m
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Aug 23, 2007, 10:25 AM

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Koi has a lesion. He's about 14-15". He needs your help.

(This post was edited by atty_rane_m on Aug 23, 2007, 10:28 AM)

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atty_rane_m
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Aug 23, 2007, 10:46 AM

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(This post was edited by atty_rane_m on Aug 23, 2007, 10:47 AM)

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kennethc
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Aug 23, 2007, 11:59 AM

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The lesions don't look too severe yet. Do you see red streaks on his fins? A bacterial infection is the cause, but the real trigger might be something else, either one of your water parameters are at critical levels or a parasite. How about your other kois, do you observe the same symptoms?

First option is to do a partial water change and add salt to your pond and observe for a few days. Usually the koi�s immune system will be able to fight off the infection. Its best to check your PH, nitrate and nitrite levels.

Another option is to apply Pimafix and Melafix

atty_rane_m
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Aug 23, 2007, 5:05 PM

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Thanks to Kennethc, Dreamkoi, Ramildy for all the info and help.

Best effort will be given. Practically, you all have the same suggestions.

atty_rane_m
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Aug 23, 2007, 6:12 PM

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There are no other kois infected, so far.

I hope that it stays that way.

Why is this koi's other eye popping out? Refer to the picture.

There's something wrong.

kennethc
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Aug 23, 2007, 10:21 PM

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That condition is called pop-eye. Its caused by stress and in this case most likely, by the infection. You might want to isolate your koi in a separate aquarium with an air pump/air stone if you have one, just so you don't risk spreading the infection to the other kois. And treat it with pimafix/melafix. Should recover in under a week.

(This post was edited by kennethc on Aug 23, 2007, 10:25 PM)

mikoi
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Aug 24, 2007, 10:51 PM

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yes. pop eye or popeye ( popeye the sailorman as some hobbyist would call it)
is a condition not a sickness. usually occurs after feeding.
it is caused by nitrate poisoning.
better check your water parameters. your nitrate is very high.

Nitrate can be lessen with these options:

trickle tower

veggie filter

or water change.

atty_rane_m
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Aug 25, 2007, 8:00 AM

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Can rainwaiter also affect the nitrate level?

Water change is done almost every other day,

about 20% of the whole pond water.

mikoi
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Aug 25, 2007, 9:22 AM

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Hi Atty.

I don't really know a lot about rain water, but, I think it has no minerals or value at all.
meaning it is very neutral...I might be wrong so help me here, guys.
some say that our rain is very acidic. Which may cause a PH crash so it helps to have some oyster shells in your
filter system to kick in when time like this occurs.

but going on back to the nitrate topic. Rain will surely dilute the nitrate, is it good or bad? I don't really know.
What you really need is an established ecosystem in your pond. A fully grown colony of good bacteria.
Remember Nitrate is an end product of the nitrogen cycle.....this is the cycle: Ammonia ----> Nitrite ----> Nitrate.

Remember: Kois are voracious eaters. they are pigs.
They constantly piss, sweat and poop....NON STOP........ they are swimming ammonia factories.

Atty? is your pond overstocked? This might also be a big contributor to your persistent nitrate problem
even with the 20% water change every other day. remember.....kois are ammonia factory Smile

Why don't you try building a trickle tower..it is easy and cheap...you just have to be patient for it to kick in.
do a research on the forums here about trickle tower.

henros
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Aug 25, 2007, 10:18 AM

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Hi Atty,

try this link. Enjoy reading.

http://www.koi.com.my/cgi-bin/koiforum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3071;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

RamilDy
Koi Lover

Aug 25, 2007, 2:06 PM

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Mikoi the tricle tower and bakiki showers is the same?

as Ncj said that Rane's filter is just an imporvised filter

if I am not wrong it could be an improvised overhead fiter composed of a submersible pump and a big container to hold all the watse

(This post was edited by RamilDy on Aug 25, 2007, 2:12 PM)

RamilDy
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Aug 25, 2007, 2:17 PM

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these type of filters is widely use here in Cebu specially the backyard breeders

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kennethc
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Aug 25, 2007, 11:12 PM

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Rain water is acidic and affects PH, it lowers the PH level and may cause whats called a PH crash (which will kill all fish). If your pond has received a lot of rainwater do test.

Here in Manila, after last week's typhoon egay, I checked the PH level of my pond water. Good thing that I did as it was already at 6.0! probably on the verge of a crash. Immediately put in 250g of baking soda. Now PH is back to a normal 8.0. If you have a small pond, I advise everyone to check

atty_rane_m
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Aug 26, 2007, 9:14 AM

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bad news. 1 koi died (my second favorite). not the one I showed here, although

that one is dying, too. there are other external signs of the koi

that I presented here, his eyes are red now, the tail has been eaten

up by something, I don't know what.

diver19
Koi Lover

Aug 26, 2007, 10:47 AM

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it may be a bacterial infection if the tail seems to be rotting away...

treatment for bacterial infections are....

adding salt
correcting water parameters ( waterchange )
giving antibiotics
and most of all finding the source of the problem...

i would remove all severly infected kois and treat them in another tank...

lets hope that he infection or diesease doesnt spread

ncj
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Aug 28, 2007, 1:30 PM

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jst log in rytnow! Frown

i'll visit ur koi wen i get back fron davao rane i think dis sat i be going in ur place to check on ur koi's! Frown

how many koi's got sick rane? Frown

i hope ur koi's wil be well soon! Frown

jst take the advice of diver19 rane! Smile

see u soon! Smile

atty_rane_m
Koi Lover

Sep 4, 2007, 9:43 AM

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This koi survived after 2 weeks of being sick. He's alive and eating.

He remains in the quarantine for 1 month.

High risk for my other kois if he stays in the pond with them, right?

FYI, only 1 tiny koi died. So far, no bacteria outbreak.

ncj
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Sep 4, 2007, 8:02 PM

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dat's a good news! Smile

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